What Die for loading match 308 win rounds?

[ussoldier1984]

What die's should I look into for match 308 win rounds that will work with my lee classic cast breech press?

 

[orbitup]

I use a Lee collet neck sizing die. I have to full length size it about every 5th time.

 

[Dawico]

Lee dies for me also.

Spend as much as you want but my Lee dies have given me two sub 1/4 MOA 5 shot groups @100 yards with two different (Savage) rifles.

 

[ussoldier1984]

I ordered these I am not sure if I got the right type for precision. I know they will work but have been told things about crimping http://leeprecision.com/pacesetter-dies-308-win.html

 

[Younggun]

Just don't use the crimp die. Easy fix.


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[Dawico]

Just don't use the crimp die. Easy fix.


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And set your seating die high enough to avoid crimping there too.

 

[dee]

I use redding type s dies for all of my rifles I strive for accuracy with.

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[ussoldier1984]

And set your seating die high enough to avoid crimping there too.

I have been reading and watching videos on reloading but this will be my first dive into it. could you please explain what you mean?

 

[dee]

Crimping is detrimental to accuracy.

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[ussoldier1984]

And set your seating die high enough to avoid crimping there too.

So how besides reading more and following my reloading books can I ensure that I set the seating die high enough?

 

[Ozzman]

Crimping is detrimental to accuracy.

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Where did you hear this??
Crimping when done right will actually improve accuracy in my experience.
Now, too much crimp is another issue... I agree with you there.

 

[dee]

It depends on the die set you get if it will crimp or not. Setting the die body in farther is where the crimp usually is.

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[dee]

Where did you hear this??
Crimping when done right will actually improve accuracy in my experience.
Now, too much crimp is another issue... I agree with you there.

It can help some but not match ammo. Look at any disciple that requires the utmost in accuracy and there will be zero crimping. A majority will likely be running 0.002" neck tension a few maybe a touch more or less. Anything over 0.005" will possibly deform bullet jackets which is no bueno.

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[Younggun]

So how besides reading more and following my reloading books can I ensure that I set the seating die high enough?

The manual with the die set will probably tell you, but you just raise the ram and screw the die in until it touches the shell holder, then back it out one full turn. Should prevent any crimping unless your brass REALLY needs to be trimmed.


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[Dawico]

The manual with the die set will probably tell you, but you just raise the ram and screw the die in until it touches the shell holder, then back it out one full turn. Should prevent any crimping unless your brass REALLY needs to be trimmed.


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Not my method. Not sure if that even works but could.

I put a piece of brass (no bullet but sized already) in the shell holder and run the ram all the way up. Screw the seating die in until you feel it hit the brass (seating stem up out of the way is preferred).

Consider that zero or very little crimp.

Screw the die up a full turn to insure it will not crimp and lock it in.

Screw it down to increase the crimp if desired but it doesn't take much. Too much and you crush the neck.

Lee dies have the ability to crimp built in the seating die. A FCD is nice if you want good consistent crimps though. But some seating dies do not crimp (so I hear, I buy Lee generally).

 

[TejasRider]

Where abouts do you call home? If not too far maybe I could stop by some time to help you get started.

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[ussoldier1984]

Where abouts do you call home? If not too far maybe I could stop by some time to help you get started.

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I live in north Irving The las colinas area.

 

[Apollo]

RCBS full length sizing die and a Forster or Redding seating die with micrometer are hard to beat.

Pro tip thought, buy a decapping die and decap then clean your brass before sizing and trimming. It'll stop gunk from building up in your resizing die.

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[TejasRider]

I live in north Irving The las colinas area.

I live in the mid-cities. I'm out of town this week and next but could swing by sometime the week of June 12th to explain some of the basics if you have all of your components.

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[ussoldier1984]

RCBS full length sizing die and a Forster or Redding seating die with micrometer are hard to beat.

Pro tip thought, buy a decapping die and decap then clean your brass before sizing and trimming. It'll stop gunk from building up in your resizing die.

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Cool thanks for the tip. I still have to get a better powder scale I want a digital I also need to get a media tumbler for cleaning brass once I have enough spent brass. And I have to get brass bullets powder and primers. I Just got in my Lee classic cast press kit in today and the lee die's are sitting in my mail box have to go run outside to get them. I should be fully set up by late July as I am going out of town for a few weeks. When I get back I am building a sturdy workbench to bolt the press and table vice too. I hope to be making my first rounds mid to late July. For now I unboxed my kit and am reading the lee loading book that came with it along with my Lyman's guide. Still need to pick up Hornady's loading book.