What Do You Think

[Wedge]

Post office off limits due to federal building or not? Just made a quik reference chart thanks again.

 

[DoubleActionCHL]

Post office off limits due to federal building or not? Just made a quik reference chart thanks again.

The safe answer is "yes." There is some argument over conflicting USG Code, and Postmaster General Rulings, but I'd err on the side of caution. Even in the presence of conflicting statutes, if one allows them to prosecute you, guess which one they'll apply!

 

[ballsack]

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[txinvestigator]

When the rules were originally written banks were included in the prohibited places list. Hospitals were also, and I think there were a couple of others as well. The rules where later amended to read that these places were off limits only if they were posted. Wedge if you got your permit back when the rules first came out, that might be what you are thinking of.

Eagle

Banks were never statutorily off limits.

 

[txinvestigator]

Oh, also Credit Unions do tend to be posted. Something about the federal backing for them (similar to FDIC, but differant initials) requires them to be posted from what I have heard. So if you go to one, keep your eyes peeled for the sign, or just assume that it is posted, and find a new bank.

Eagle

No, federal law does not require Credit Unions to be posted.

 

[txinvestigator]

I do have to agree with Dirty in that the penalty for getting caught carrying at the Post Office, because you did not realize it was off limits is pretty steep.

Eagle

30 days in jail and a $50 fine.

 

[Texas42]

Nice to see you, TXInvestigator. Been a while or am I just blind?

 

[txinvestigator]

Nice to see you, TXInvestigator. Been a while or am I just blind?

You too....I took a little break.

 

[ballsack]

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[MadMo44Mag]

I am sure I'll get blasted for this but regardless of what the book says it all comes down to what a judge determines and how he interprets the law.
I have read the book many times and there are things that when openly discussed there will be 2 of 6 people that interpret the same verbiage another way.
In that respect this is a valuable thread IMO!

 

[jsimmons]

Oh, also Credit Unions do tend to be posted. Something about the federal backing for them (similar to FDIC, but differant initials) requires them to be posted from what I have heard. So if you go to one, keep your eyes peeled for the sign, or just assume that it is posted, and find a new bank.

Eagle

Merely being insured by the FDIC does *not* preclude the licensed carry of a concealed firearm. The bank MUST post the proper signage in order to prohibit carry ion their premises.

 

[Wedge]

Any hope that we can get these rules permanetly(cant spell) posted as a quik ref guide. We cant decide here what the laws are so the law books will be read in the same manner as its already been said. Poss someone like Double Action or Tex Inv could do this.Seems like 2 gentleman that fully have investigated the laws and understand there meaning. Sorry to call you both out. I would try it but I still have questions so I wouldnt be a good person for this. Thanks again for all the input here.

 

[DoubleActionCHL]

Any hope that we can get these rules permanetly(cant spell) posted as a quik ref guide. We cant decide here what the laws are so the law books will be read in the same manner as its already been said. Poss someone like Double Action or Tex Inv could do this.Seems like 2 gentleman that fully have investigated the laws and understand there meaning. Sorry to call you both out. I would try it but I still have questions so I wouldnt be a good person for this. Thanks again for all the input here.

I'm actually putting together a cheat sheet for this sort of thing:
Where you can't carry
Eligibility
Reasons for Suspension/Revocation
General "Use of Force/Deadly Force" guidelines
Other stuff

The "where you can't carry" section is somewhat convoluted, so I'm trying to distill it down to a simple, but accurate format.

I'll post it up when it's done. We'll probably do a sticky.

 

[Texas1911]

I'll post it up when it's done. We'll probably do a sticky.

 

[Wedge]

Thank You Sir. Could you add how too on motorcycles. Seems to be asked alot for non chl without saddle bags. What do you guys do for gun shows. I see were no one except police can carry a loaded gun. My question is can CHLs carry a unloaded handgun with a loaded clip in your pocket. Mayby this is a dumb question.

 

[txinvestigator]

Thank You Sir. Could you add how too on motorcycles. Seems to be asked alot for non chl without saddle bags.

A motorcycle is a motor vehicle. The question is, "can you be inside of a motorcycle"?

What do you guys do for gun shows. I see were no one except police can carry a loaded gun. My question is can CHLs carry a unloaded handgun with a loaded clip in your pocket. Mayby this is a dumb question.

Most gun shows do not want you to be able to load your weapon while inside. I suppose you could carry the MAGAZINE.

 

[DoubleActionCHL]

Thank You Sir. Could you add how too on motorcycles. Seems to be asked alot for non chl without saddle bags. What do you guys do for gun shows. I see were no one except police can carry a loaded gun. My question is can CHLs carry a unloaded handgun with a loaded clip in your pocket. Mayby this is a dumb question.

There is some debate on the whole motorcycle issue. As TxInvestigator stated, the term "inside" doesn't really apply to a bike. Locking saddlebags or other compartment is a must if you're going somewhere you can't carry.

Many gun shows do not allow you to bring loaded magazines inside. I suppose you could empty the mags and have the unloaded weapon checked and secured before you enter.