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  • Mic

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    Cities seem to take all the self sufficiency out of life.....

    Nail has been hit directly on the head. People rely on either government or a corporation for damn near everything. Most (not all) lose any ability to do any practical, anything of value to anybody but a corporation or government. They become a cog in the machine. That is fine....until the machine breaks. Then they are let down at the realization that they have falling into a state where they are nothing without the machine.

    I personally believe that I fell into this trap. Truth is, I'm still in it. I am slowly trying to make my way out of it with my land and my prepping, but most importantly with my mindset. Acknowledging a problem is the first step in overcoming it.
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    ROGER4314

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    Continuing with the OP's question, Debt has become the single most significant factor in our lives. We are in debt up to our eyeballs and can't take any risks or we may lose out on some income and get behind on our debts.

    I hated debt, hated credit and avoided it all like the trap that it really is. I always say that having no family enabled to move from job to job and all around the center of the nation. That is partially correct. Staying out of debt was the biggest factor in letting me travel, go to school, move and to change jobs.

    What's all that have to do with the OP's question?

    Abraham Maslow developed a "Hierarchy Of Needs" It is like a pyramid. When the needs on the bottom rungs like food, shelter, water, are taken care of, then people can look to a higher rung for additional needs to concentrate on. The trick here is to take care of your basic needs then you can look forward to something more and higher on the pyramid. People can't be concerned with paltry things like Freedom of Speech and the Second Amendment when they are fighting to get food!

    There is a lot of that in today's society. Our Rulers want us to be stuck in the lower rungs of Maslow's Hierarchy so we won't be concerned with Obama and his crew wiping their butts with the Constitution or their rampant spending. They are operating on the higher rungs of the pyramid unrestrained while most of us are fighting for our lives on the bottom rungs of the pyramid!

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    There is a lot of that in today's society. Our Rulers want us to be stuck in the lower rungs of Maslow's Hirearchy so we won't be concerned with Obama and his crew wiping their butts with the Constitution or their rampant spending.

    Flash

    Excellent call. I talk about the victim psychology a lot but youre right about debt being an anchor too.

    Regarding the needs pyramid thats really what should have been an obvious truth to me but i hadnt considered it.

    And whats at the top of that pyramid? The hardest to reach? Morality (which isnt the same as ethics)
     

    matefrio

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    I think it's the disconnect most city folks have to where things come from.

    They eat chicken, but condemn when they see someone killing and processing a chicken.

    They buy goods and services with money or worse credit and not with barter or labor.

    They see a picture perfect apple that tastes like cardboard and vegetables on produce stands and don't know the joys of watching the tree grow or fruit from their own garden or why an orange was a special gift at Christmas.

    The only seeds they have to plant are paper money and metal coins. Their only crops are green lawns not suitable for goats. The tool they have is money and the more of it the more problems they think they can solve with it.

    They cannot respect themselves let alone their fellow man.
     
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    Vaquero

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    I have a "job" for one reason. To make money to pay others to do things I can't.
    When I get "lazy" and just pay someone to do something I'm capable of, it gets the "I'm too busy" excuse.

    The excuse is overused.
    I'm much happier and a better person when I'm busting my ass working on my own time.
    Building fence at the farm beats building infrastructure any day.

    Punching a timeclock is all well and good, but don't let it be an excuse for not doing your own work.

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    ROGER4314

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    Really.........pay close attention to that pyramid. We are buried in debt and fighting for food and shelter while Obama and his lap dogs are tweaking morality issues and re-engineering society into the image they have in mind. Liberals were pretty successful until they pissed off the masses (like us). We looked up from our sorry self made ditch, saw what the Rulers were actually doing and raised Hell about it.

    They have everything that they need. They are wealthy, in positions of power and can play unrestrained with morality and social issues because that's where they are on the pyramid. They don't understand or care about our flailing just to keep ourselves alive. That's the reason that they don't address issues that would help us. They aren't where we are and don't have a clue about what we need.

    If we, as a society, can keep our heads above the muck of the lower two rungs on the pyramid, we'll keep these Socialist Liberals from re-inventing the United States.

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    ROGER4314

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    Vaquero.......
    Note where you are on the pyramid. You are actually doing things for self esteem and enjoyment that make you feel good about yourself. You are operating on the "Esteem" rung and that says a lot about your income level and living conditions.

    I worked in industry for many years and was always placed in the highest Journeyman labor grades for high tech, highly skilled workers. The only higher pay grades were Leadmen and Foremen.The common denominator for virtually ALL of those people was their involvement in hobbies, side businesses and other things that brought them happiness and self worth. Folks who scratch along on the bottom rungs of the pyramid can only dream of such things!

    If Obama can keep our people in the "survival" levels, he has a free pass to do as he wishes with our nation and chart the course to Socialism and central control of our people. We see it happening but are powerless to divert our energy from staying afloat and feeding our kids.

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    Services. Everything they need or don't need is there. Private markets for purchasing and the public markets for the taking. Politicians to get elected and maintain their seat must offer the public services to the masses or city folks. In turn it draws the "takers" to where the handouts are.
     

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    Does the city make people soft or do all the soft people flock to the city? The "country" ain't what it used to be either. Kids still on video games and going to the store and not having to learn skills or work, unless you are in some real hard country, say nowheres Alaska, but even there folks sit on their asses, drink all day, steal and collect welfare. Very few people try to live like pioneers anymore . Those people were F-n tough.
     

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    Cities make it easy to buy a solution versus having to think for yourself.

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    karlac

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    Guy named Calhoun did some controlled behavioral studies early in the last century by overcrowding mice and rats. While a lot of supposedly educated folks have taken exception to a parallel with human behavior, it doesn't take an Einstein to see similar behavior in humans in densely populated areas. To the observant, a thin veneer of human civility barely hides a good deal of crowded rat behavior.
     
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