Hey Z,
I've got an 80s era pre-crossbolt safety winchester saddle ring carbine(true 16"). It has some speckling on the receiver but it is internally flawless. I can email you some pics later. I've put less than 100 rounds through it and centered the sights. I got it from a friend who had been neglecting it in a closet for years. He was the original owner and got it as a teenager in the eighties. I'm asking $600 for it.