dustycorgill
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amen!
WTH!!! Phil Robertson suspended from Duck Dynasty....
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amen!
Basically what I was thinking as well.
I don't understand why people get all tangled up over others hate or dislike for anyone else. I could care less what you feel about how I live my life so why should you care about how I feel about how you live yours? As long as anyone's views aren't hindering of your own pursuit of life, liberty and happiness, what's it matter?
Ole Cowboy
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What is getting shoved under the rug is the real issue. Whether or not you agree or disagree or somewhat agree or disagree is NOT the issue here. The real issue is freedom of speech. Our 1st Amendment rights are all but gone in the US. The only reason why they have gone after him is they are a rather conservative group. The left can and does say anything they want, but let anyone say something they don't like and suddenly they are offended and screaming like a baby taken away from mama's teat.
If I have to give up my rights to give you yours and I lose my rights in the process then that is wrong. But its what the far left want. Paula Deen lost her job for what, something she said 20 years earlier, she did nothing wrong, and neither has DD. The most intolerant people are those on the far left..
Unless something radical happens in this country you will not have your Bill of Rights in my lifetime and I am nearly 70!
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
If I have to give up my rights to give you yours and I lose my rights in the process then that is wrong. But its what the far left want. Paula Deen lost her job for what, something she said 20 years earlier, she did nothing wrong, and neither has DD. The most intolerant people are those on the far left..
Unless something radical happens in this country you will not have your Bill of Rights in my lifetime and I am nearly 70!
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
dustycorgill
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Um, they did not infringe on his 1st amendment rights in any way. He was, and still is, free to say whatever he likes concerning his views outside of any contractual obligations pertaining to the show and A&E. Even then, it would be a civil case and not criminal.
rushthezeppelin
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My roommate has been bugging met to get a duck commander call just for novelty for a while. This bs move by a&e just sealed that deal. Who knows, might come on handy when SHTF.
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I thought about getting something with Phil's picture or some other crap but the money would go to A&E so my show of support would only help the ones that pissed me off.
The duck call would be a better move.
The duck call would be a better move.
rushthezeppelin
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Get a DC call, that wont support them. Tote it around with you and tute your horn do to speak.
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They have a ton of hunting videos out there that aren't affiliated with A&E. Phill and company have actually been making videos for quite some time. I grew up in that area and Duck Commander was a big deal well before the A&E show.
Ole Cowboy
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Really...Deen, DD and a host of others have lost jobs due to something they SAID, NOT an action they took against someone, solely based upon their PERSONAL belief. While I do not blame you, you are only a reflection of what you have been taught and its clear you and I have different views, much different. Like I said you will lose your Bill of Rights and I will most likely live to see it unless something radically changes the direction this country is going.
I doubt you do it, but some personal study on our Constitution and our founding documents along with the "Hate Crime" LAWS we have in this nation would be of benefit...maybe.
Today's young men and women have no idea what they are losing and about to lose, Obama is NOT finished yet!
35Remington
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I hope you have all read the full article that got Phil suspended from the show. It's a very good article, and it was clear to me that Phil had a real effect on the author from GQ, Drew Magary.
Here is the link: Duck Dynasty's Phil Robertson Gives Drew Magary a Tour
No thinking person should be greatly surprised to learn he was suspended for those comments. Just look what happened to Jesus.
Here is the link: Duck Dynasty's Phil Robertson Gives Drew Magary a Tour
No thinking person should be greatly surprised to learn he was suspended for those comments. Just look what happened to Jesus.
dustycorgill
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Ole Cowboy.....you are correct. It isnt about whether or not they outright violated his 1st amendment rights. It is about the way the left is using instances like this to "chip away" at our rights slowly but surely. It is a way to try and make the whole country "feel bad" for their beliefs. Before we know it our rights will be whittled away to nothing. Its just like gun rights, they arent going after them in an all out attempt to eliminate the right at once, they are trying to pass legislation and condition people little by little until they succeed in taking those rights too. Thats why when the Rhinos "give a little" or "compromise" we should and do get pissed off at them. When it comes to our rights there is NO compromise.
DING DING DING!!!!!
Put away your ding a ling
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Ole Cowboy
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It might be noted that most of those who lose jobs and face repercussions are conservative and Christians. There is no shortage of inflammatory, racist, homophobia etc statements made by the left, news people, blacks etc. In fact they can say and do anything, use whatever language they want and they get a pass, often they get open cheers.
You quoted it, but don't seem to understand it. "Congress shall make no law..." A&E isn't the government, so him being fired isn't a 1st amendment violation. An employer has every right to fire you if they don't like something you say, just as you have every right to kick someone out of your house for saying something you don't like. I think this is a huge mistake on A&E's part, but they have every right to make that mistake.
The real issue here is the wussification of America. People need to stop having such knee jerk emotional reactions to personal opinions. If anything, Phil should be respected for given his honest thoughts on the matter, describing his beliefs in a humorous manner, and not actually being derogatory. I heard one person say on Megan Kelly's show that the very belief that gay sex is a sin is derogatory, but people like that are the wusses that are the problem. That guy needs to go look up the definition of derogatory, accept that some people might have beliefs different than his own, and grow a thicker skin.
There is definitely a double standard there
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dustycorgill
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But......but.......why?
Ole Cowboy
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Then we and you do not have freedom of speech. Had PR go out and spoke of A&E, then the justification is clearly there, but he did not, he was FIRED because he is a redneck, conservative and a Christian. There is NOTHING he said that was an attack on or hate speech, in fact just the opposite, he stated he "loved them". Further more when does a very small minority of the population have the rights to take away his rights to free speech and you do not have free speech if you suffer for you speaking. Did anything he say go to promote or cause and action on someone? No!
I find the so called outrage by the 'gay' community OFFENSIVE to me, then they should lose their jobs, YES????????????
When you PICK and CHOSE who has rights and who has not, then NO ONE has rights and that is were we are at, you have lost your GOD GIVEN rights...Now we have rights by government fiat, rule by emotion not by laws. We are no longer a nation of laws but a nation where the whims of men are the law of the day...want to really see it: Obamacare, its law and how often have we heard from its sycophants "Obamacare is the law of the land, get over it". Really, then why has Obama made over 20 changes to the law as he sees fit, excluding some but not others. He does not have this authority. Our Constitution is all but gone in this once great country
35Remington
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This is how I see it also. There is no constitutional right guaranteeing a person's job when that person makes remarks their employer strongly disagrees with.
