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[prisondoc]

Does anyone have any experience with this system?


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[deemus]

kind of cool.....

 

[prisondoc]

kind of cool.....

I think it's cool too. I wonder what the accuracy would be like with inserts .

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[kbaxter60]

I think it's cool too. I wonder what the accuracy would be like with inserts .

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Yes, me too.
And I wonder if that's not technically a SBR?

 

[zackmars]

Accuracy with the chamber inserts range from ok to poor, furthermore the rifle calibers loose a lot of velocity being fired out a short barrel

 

[zackmars]

Yes, me too.
And I wonder if that's not technically a SBR?

No, even though the insert has rifling and is less than 16", it cannot fire oustide of the host shotgun, legally the barrel is going to be at least 18.5".

Think of a pinned and welded 14.5" ar barrel

 

[Younggun]

Accuracy with the chamber inserts range from ok to poor, furthermore the rifle calibers loose a lot of velocity being fired out a short barrel

That’s what I was thinking. No way the inserts can fit all that tight in the chamber so there must be some movement.


Also “you fire slower so you conserve precious ammo”. I can fire slow from any rifle I own, what if I need to fire fast? Just idiot marketing for idiots.


All that said, it’s a cool concept and I don’t think it’s garbage. I just think it has limited functionality and useful range isn’t going to be close to what you would probably want in a situation where it’s actually needed. “Better than nothing” is a thing though.


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[Fishkiller]

Accuracy would have to be poor at best. I guess if the SHTF you could do better than The Road Warrior with this.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Wasn't there a thread on another system similar to this a while back?

 

[Byrd666]

Interesting concept. Did a quick YT glance and found this link as a starter

 

[seeker_two]

Might be a good training tool to practice gun handling while working up to 12ga recoil, especially using .410. But I don't see it as a practical survival tool....maybe if you have to scrounge for ammo?....

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[ZX9RCAM]

It does say in the OP that it allows you to "scavenge" ammo, and in desperate situations....

 

[lonestardiver]

Marketed to preppers or wanna be preppers or those that need the latest gadget. The concept has some merit but the putting it into practice here introduces so many other variables that the tolerance stacking makes it a poor choice.

 

[zackmars]

It does say in the OP that it allows you to "scavenge" ammo, and in desperate situations....

Which is little more than pure nonsense

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Which is little more than pure nonsense

That's how they're hoping to get most of their sales I reckon....

 

[zackmars]

That's how they're hoping to get most of their sales I reckon....

Same with things like those hetzer 2 barreled pistols, show a cool picture of an AK or MP5 and say, or imply it is just as effective

 

[Txhillbilly]

It's not like you're going to carry 10 different types of ammo on you if you are "Surviving".
I don't see them selling many of these.

 

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