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    http://evonomics.com/ownership-evolution-property/


    In a recent post on the “evolution of money,” which concentrated heavily on the idea of (balance-sheet) assets, I promised to come back to the fundamental idea behind “assets”: ownership. Herewith, fulfilling that promise.
    There are a large handful of things that make humans uniquely different from animals. In many other areas — language, abstract reasoning, music-making, conceptions of self and fairness, large-scale cooperation, etc. — humans and animals vary (hugely) in degree and kind. But they still share those phenotypic behavioral traits.
    I’d like to explore one of those unique differences: ownership of property. Animals don’t own property. Ever. They can and do possess and control goods and territories (possession and control are importantly distinct), but they never “own” things. Ownership is a uniquely human construct.



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    TheDan

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    The author is starting from a false premise. In his example, yes the tribe that took control of the spring did so by forcing others away from it, but if they had discovered a spring in the wilderness that no one had used and claimed it, then force was not used to claim ownership. Ownership is not zero sum. Some people may claim it is because resources are finite, and in a sense that is true. We only have 13.8 billion light years worth of resources to claim...

    A better way to conceptualize the origins of ownership is to think about your asshole. It unmistakably belongs to you, right? You own your asshole, and did not acquire it through force. If someone wants to stick their dick in your asshole and you have to use force to prevent them from doing so, you are not negatively depriving them of your asshole. The whole world does not have a claim to your asshole as this author would want you to believe.
     

    benenglish

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    What TheDan said.

    Interestingly, I drilled down a bit more and found that the author of the article in the OP credits this: http://mattbruenig.com/2015/01/26/violence-property-and-entitlement/ for much of his "insight". That source material actually makes more sense in the original form than it did after Stever Roth mangled and re-wrote it.

    Bruenig concludes that property rights hinge on entitlement (though we really shouldn't read that word with any of the modern-day political baggage it carries) and that establishing entitlement to something is pretty much the only test of whether something is property or whether taking it is theft.

    TheDan grasps this concept and states it rather eloquently via the use of a bodily orifice. That's downright inspirationally insightful, if you ask me. :)
     

    Vec

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    A better way to conceptualize the origins of ownership is to think about your asshole. It unmistakably belongs to you, right? You own your asshole, and did not acquire it through force. If someone wants to stick their dick in your asshole and you have to use force to prevent them from doing so, you are not negatively depriving them of your asshole. The whole world does not have a claim to your asshole as this author would want you to believe.


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    jrbfishn

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    Knowledge is the only thing besides ourselves that we really own. Once you aquire it, it can never be sold off, taken by force or lost to found or used by another. It can be given, shared or forgotten about, but not by force. Once it is yours, it remains forevever yours.

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