You have got to be kidding

Discussion in 'General Firearms & Ammo' started by dmkav24, Feb 16, 2009.

  1. dmkav24

    dmkav24 New Member

    Feb 16, 2009
    In this day and age of media, television, internet, etc you almost become numb to the outright appauling. We americans are conditioned to find even the most bazzar acceptable. Well my friends today I have reached my limit. I have had it with this highway robbery going on with gun prices its rediculous and were all guilty, well not all of us but most of us and its absurd, guys were suprisingly strong in numbers making us a very viable threat, but come on thes dealers are out of their mind, worse than that the individual sellers dont get me started. TEXAS GUN TRADER , BARRETT M82A1 OR M107 however, $15,000. because......." thats wat their going for on gunbroker" book price half that, and the only reason the one on guntrader was that high because it cam with 5000 rds of ammo oh and this was great austin texas dpms sass $3800, 1700 3 week wait guys you have the control stop trying to get rich on every sale i have sold a bunch of guns and yes profit is not a dirty word i understand but this non-sense needs to stop, in this community we need to take care of one another because when to wolf come growling at your door it will be up to all of you. On that same note lets say production shoots thru the roof , obama dosent come after gun and ammo prices level, what then you the dude that ripped off your neighbor because you thought you should... yeah when this is all over I would hate to be that guy... the con, these prices are criminal, so sleep well criminals if you can

  2. dmkav24

    dmkav24 New Member

    Feb 16, 2009
    forgive the typos, i was a litle emmotional. im better now thanks .
  3. Texas1911

    Texas1911 TGT Addict

    May 29, 2017
    Austin, TX
    It's a free market, and frankly alot of people are complaining about prices because it doesn't suit their interests. Generally these are the same people that down talk subsidy and socialism in the same breath.

    Another aspect is that many sites have the expensive guns listed because the cheap ones sell so quickly. I've seen pistols and rifles sell as fast as we can log them into our ATF books, literally the customer is waiting in the store for us to put a price on it.

    This is no different than machine guns costing $15,000 for a gun that was once $2500. It's simple supply and demand. When demand goes down, the supply will catch up and the prices will drop. It's how life works.

    I'm really getting tired of people bitching about what stuff costs. It's like listening to a 4-yr old petitioning for candy at a store because he feels entitled to a reward.
  4. drj3828

    drj3828 Active Member

    Mar 4, 2008
    Grimes County, TX
    Yes it is a free market in the country we live in but also remember these folks when all of this dies down like it did in 93. I can remember the price gougers in 93 selling hi-cap mags that where $20 for $100++ when it all calmed down alot of those vendors do not exsist any more because of the old saying what goes around comes around! I know of gun shop owners going to Wal-Mart and buying all the ammo and selling at there shop with a 60% mark up! Yes this is a free market and it is also free not to purchase from them and let other people know about it.

    I was stocked up on items already so I did not have to go out and buy the things that price gougers are selling!

    Just rember who's who's in the future!

  5. 45tex

    45tex Well-Known

    Feb 1, 2009
    I want an AR. Not even looking at them. Its a want not a need.
    I need to be able to pick up some cheap .45 acp every now and then to kill some paper at the range. So I fork over the money, but I'm watching. And not hording.
    When things calm down there are some stores and many vendors at guns shows I won't even give the time of day. I've been free enterprised out of the market and I will not forget the greediest. This to is free enterprise.
    We all need to vote with our feet. That is, plan a range date on the day you were going to the gun show. We can bring prices in line by not standing three deep at the gun counter to pay msrp+. If you don't need it go on with your life. Its going to take years for liberal gun control to have more impact than own own panic. Our money drives the market as well.
    Buy only what you need, let the gouging vendors choke on their overpriced stuff. They will soon run out of newbies to sell to. Those folks buy one. We would buy a safe full at a reasonable price.
    By the same token, if your treated well, do not forget the store/vendor that was there being reasonable during unreasonable times.
    If you have to go to the gun show, (and I understand that need) tell the vendor, while you hold his $300 AK with a $1200 price tag, "When times are better I will remember you and buy elsewhere." This too is free enterprise.
  6. lonewolf23c

    lonewolf23c Active Member

    Oct 2, 2008
    Still doesn't consitute for the reasoning behind quadrupling the price on a gun, just because supply is down. The gun isn't worth anymore than it was a year ago, and I sure won't pay more for one. If the blue book value on a gun is $300 that's all I will pay for it if its in excellent condition, I'm sure not going to pay $1200 for that same gun because "Demand is up and production is down".
  7. Texas1911

    Texas1911 TGT Addict

    May 29, 2017
    Austin, TX
    You aren't, but plenty of people are. That is the point. The item is worth what someone will pay for it. That's why old, ratty, worn out Colt 1911s from WWII are worth $2500+, and new National Match models go for half of that.

    If it's not worth that price to you, then don't buy it. If enough people stop buying them, then they will have to lower their price.
  8. kville79

    kville79 Active Member

    May 24, 2008

    That's the whole supply/demand system that runs the free market system. Lots of supply, low demand... low prices. Lots of demand, low supply.. high prices. Simple economics.

    You can note this especially on surplus rifles... when a new milsurp rifle is first imported they ship them by the 10,000nds and with usually low demand at first. So when SKS's first started showing up that weren't Vietnam bringbacks... the price was LOW... like $70.00?? now they're selling for around 300.00? They're not making anymore... so the supply of unbought guns has trickled down, but the demand for them is still there... hence the price hike.

    It has nothing to do with production cost.
  9. JKTex

    JKTex Well-Known

    Mar 11, 2008
    DFW, North Texas
    Basic Economics in a free world. If you never took an Economics class, I recommend you do.

    You'll pay what you feel comfortable paying. So will the next guy. If the next guy feels comfortable paying 4x what you do, he'll go home with it.

    I echo a lot of Alan's comments about the whining and bitching. I guarantee the same people would bitch if supply shot up and they can't find a buyer for their $500 item at $300.
  10. The Ineffable Aces

    The Ineffable Aces New Member

    Feb 17, 2009
    Inversely, with the economy tanking like it is, we should be finding plenty guns for the price of a loaf of bread. (figuratively)

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