Zero guns allowed at work!!! What are your options??

[Eastexasrick]

When guns were a total no-no in DC, we used to have a saying. "I would RATHER be Judged by 12 than CARRIED by 6".

That's it!

 

[toddnjoyce]

Well I know/ knew two guys who attempted to carry at work. A truck driver snitched and they went to jail. Lost their guns, gun rights as well as their jobs in the industry...

Location, industry, and charges convicted of?

If your employer is USPS (or any other federal job, TBH) that can be a consequence. Mom & pop muffler shop, not so much unless there’s more to ths story.

 

[Eastexasrick]

Know the consequences of your actions. Whining about it later will unlikely mitigate the punishment. Although the press may love it.....

 

[benenglish]

the VP explained that I was the internal rapid response team leader for all emergencies in that facility and it wouldn't be beneficial for everyone to know how we would respond. I was stunned to hear we had such a team, even more so that I was even on it.

That's beautiful.

 

[Lonesome Dove]

Location, industry, and charges convicted of?

If your employer is USPS (or any other federal job, TBH) that can be a consequence. Mom & pop muffler shop, not so much unless there’s more to ths story.

Worlds second largest cold storage and logistics company. There is noway to get the full story from a fortune 500 company. All upper personnel are ass kissers. It's true it happened and that's that. When you are hired you sign your life away and the contracts clearly state. Firearms are not allowed on company property or vehicles and you Will be prosecuted to the fullest and terminated if caught. Some people just don't read everything or have reading comprehension. Whichever!

 

[Hoji]

 

[Hoji]

Worlds second largest cold storage and logistics company. There is noway to get the full story from a fortune 500 company. All upper personnel are ass kissers. It's true it happened and that's that. When you are hired you sign your life away and the contracts clearly state. Firearms are not allowed on company property or vehicles and you Will be prosecuted to the fullest and terminated if caught. Some people just don't read everything or have reading comprehension. Whichever!

In Texas employers are forbidden by law from prohibiting guns in personal vehicles on company property except for specifically named industries

 

[Axxe55]

Well I know/ knew two guys who attempted to carry at work. A truck driver snitched and they went to jail. Lost their guns, gun rights as well as their jobs in the industry. Shocking I know I had my gun in my truck like all was cool. But I knew the rules No guns on premises. For the next two years all vehicles were checked at security entrance they caught one more. Don't know what happened to her other than she lost her job.

I believe they can exclude that with the private property rule.

Can my employer prohibit me from keeping a gun in my car at work?

A Employment article by Lisa Guerin.

www.nolo.com

Guns in Vehicles in Texas

Texas has no laws regarding rifles or shotguns in cars but generally restricts openly carrying handguns, if in plain view.

giffords.org

 

[benenglish]

I have been known to be driving to work, be a block away, and see that parking garage entrance traffic is backed up because there are a bunch of Federal Protective Service vehicles present and "spot checks" are being conducted.

I'd drive on by and call in sick or late, depending on whether or not I had anything important hanging over my head at the office that day.

Otherwise, guns stayed in the car.

My experience is that situational awareness becomes even more important when I know I'm breaking the rules.

 

[Axxe55]

Taser, knife, Pepper spray?

Company policies can set the definitions of what they consider to be weapons.

 

[Axxe55]

IMO, there are still a lot of gray areas regarding this subject in relation to the state laws, and company policies. Also I don't believe there is a one answerr that fits or suits everyone or all situations either. I think everyone has to make their own decisions to balance the law and company policies for themselves as it pertains to their unique circumstances.

 

[seeker_two]

Nothing is going to change until these companies start losing lawsuits for inadequately protecting their employees after a mass murder. And those suing can't win unless they have a bankroll that can match those companies. If these 2A organizations want to make some headway on civil rights, they should take up some of these cases.

As for the legal restrictions..... every employee of Uvalde ISD should sue the district, TEA, and the Governor's Office for enforcement of the GFZ School law. Make it public knowledge that the only thing a school employee can defend your child with is harsh language and a stapler......unless you're an administrator who can cherry-pick your buddies to be "Guardians".....

 

[Lonesome Dove]

Can my employer prohibit me from keeping a gun in my car at work?

A Employment article by Lisa Guerin.

www.nolo.com

Guns in Vehicles in Texas

Texas has no laws regarding rifles or shotguns in cars but generally restricts openly carrying handguns, if in plain view.

giffords.org

Just telling ya what happened. This was in 2016 just before I retired.

 

[Axxe55]

Just telling ya what happened. This was in 2016 just before I retired.

Like @toddnjoyce I believe there has to be more to this story than just that. I don't disbelieve you in what you are telling us, but more details would probably help to better illustrate what happened and why.

 

[Hoji]

Just telling ya what happened. This was in 2016 just before I retired.

Law has been in effect since 2011.

 

[Hoji]

Just telling ya what happened. This was in 2016 just before I retired.

I am sure you were told that was the reason. The fact is you were lied to and you believed the lie, and have been repeating it for 6 years.
Instead of doubling down, admit to yourself you were fooled, and quit spreading disinformation.

 

[toddnjoyce]

…When you are hired you sign your life away…

No. Private employer codes of conduct, internal policies, etc., do not carry the force of law.

Sec. 52.061. RESTRICTION ON PROHIBITING EMPLOYEE ACCESS TO OR STORAGE OF FIREARM OR AMMUNITION. A public or private employer may not prohibit an employee who holds a license to carry a handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, who otherwise lawfully possesses a firearm, or who lawfully possesses ammunition from transporting or storing a firearm or ammunition the employee is authorized by law to possess in a locked, privately owned motor vehicle in a parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area the employer provides for employees.

Added by Acts 2011, 82nd Leg., R.S., Ch. 1058 (S.B. 321), Sec. 1, eff. September 1, 2011.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Our work situation was bizarre.

No guns allowed was in the employee handbook, but the property had zero signage against any visitors carrying inside.

 

[Axxe55]

Our work situation was bizarre.

No guns allowed was in the employee handbook, but the property had zero signage against any visitors carrying inside.

Several companies I worked for in the past, had similar policies, but not one sign was ever displayed.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Our work situation was bizarre.

No guns allowed was in the employee handbook, but the property had zero signage against any visitors carrying inside.

Not uncommon at all. We are zero weapons in employee handbook and our private facilities are .06/.06/.07 posted.

Our financial services and banking facilities that are open to the public has zero signage and that was an intentional decision.