Mar 21, 2009 #1 C cowboy45 Active Member May 1, 2008 475 16 mexia texas I used three of my zombie loads this pm to get rid of the grackles. The 12 ga bird bombs,cool stuff, 12 ga with primer with m-80 loaded in it. AWESOME. 50 yards and I didnt think it worked until it went BOOM.YEAH!!