A couple of very early 5.56x45 cases

[S13]

It was adopted in 1963 and designed in 1962. I'm not sure if there are actually any '62 stamped cases out there.


But here are two 64's. Only a year after adoption

Lower left. RA 64






Corner

WCC 64





Military firearms stuff is cool.

 

[S13]

Fixed the dumb error

 

[TheMailMan]

Remington made the initial batches of ammo for them. I doubt they were year marked.

 

[Maxrobot]

Lake City 1972.

 

[Maxrobot]

M193 Ball.

 

[Maxrobot]

Ball M193

 

[S13]

Lake City 1972.

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Very cool!

 

[S13]

Ball M193
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Do they have dates?

 

[CavCop]

In 1957 the US Military and Remington made an updated .222 round for the Air Force to use a varmint gun on airfields. In like 1963 the .223 Remington came out, and the Military had it as the XM193 with a 55gr bullet for their 1:12 twist XM16 with parts made by Mattel. Lots of changes to ammo and M16’s occurred after real world testing.

Later circa 1972 FN would have the SS109 NATO round that is the 62gr round most know today, or as the US Military uses, the M855 or M855A1 for shorter barrels.

Granted there are copies of the XM193 to Mk262 ammo people can buy today as the M4 with its shorter barrel and 1:7 twist has become the standard Military rifle.

It still amazes me how a .223/5.56mm round became so popular.

 

[S13]

In 1957 the US Military and Remington made an updated .222 round for the Air Force to use a varmint gun on airfields. In like 1963 the .223 Remington came out, and the Military had it as the XM193 with a 55gr bullet for their 1:12 twist XM16 with parts made by Mattel. Lots of changes to ammo and M16’s occurred after real world testing.

Later circa 1972 FN would have the SS109 NATO round that is the 62gr round most know today, or as the US Military uses, the M855 or M855A1 for shorter barrels.

Granted there are copies of the XM193 to Mk262 ammo people can buy today as the M4 with its shorter barrel and 1:7 twist has become the standard Military rifle.

It still amazes me how a .223/5.56mm round became so popular.

I did not know about the .222 Air Force round. I will have to research that. Cool little tidbit.

Do you know what rifles they used?

 

[TheMailMan]

In 1957 the US Military and Remington made an updated .222 round for the Air Force to use a varmint gun on airfields. In like 1963 the .223 Remington came out, and the Military had it as the XM193 with a 55gr bullet for their 1:12 twist XM16 with parts made by Mattel. Lots of changes to ammo and M16’s occurred after real world testing.

Later circa 1972 FN would have the SS109 NATO round that is the 62gr round most know today, or as the US Military uses, the M855 or M855A1 for shorter barrels.

Granted there are copies of the XM193 to Mk262 ammo people can buy today as the M4 with its shorter barrel and 1:7 twist has become the standard Military rifle.

It still amazes me how a .223/5.56mm round became so popular.

Ahh.... the Mattel myth again.

Lots of people claim to have seen Mattel, but no one has pictures....I wonder why?

 

[CavCop]

Ahh.... the Mattel myth again.

Lots of people claim to have seen Mattel, but no one has pictures....I wonder why?

Internet lore? Here is a picture on a Mattel M16 Marauder. Some tried to claim they made the rifle, some places say they had the contract for the grips and hand guards on the XM16.

Rumor Or Reality? A Toymaker Helped Build The Army's M16 Rifle

The myth is not true, but there is a bit more to the story.

nationalinterest.org

 

[usmcpmi]

Not really old 5.56....but interesting none the less...
Orange and red tip 5.56 tracer

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[CavCop]

Not really old 5.56....but interesting none the less...
Orange and red tip 5.56 tracer View attachment 384009 View attachment 384010 View attachment 384011

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I think I have/had some orange tracers somewhere. Might have to track down some red ones.

At times we would get issued the older red tracers in the Military post Gulf War. They were fun to shoot out of the M231 firing port weapons. Army decided to take away the stocks, but we still took them out on the ground, till the took the M231’s away.

 

[usmcpmi]

They always take the fun stuff away...

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