Airplane “Jump Seat”

[Crawdaddi0]

Has anyone else had to sit in a commercial airplane “jump seat” for whatever reason? This is a fold-down seat most typically reserved for pilots/staff to move to where they’re immediately needed, though not needed to assist this aircraft during this flight. I doubt this is still possible, post-9/11, but I’m curious how common or uncommon it might’ve been.

 

[toddnjoyce]

For *most* commercial airline service operated in the US, nobody that’s not a a qualified airline employee will be in a flight attendant jump seat for takeoff or landing.

Cockpit jump seat is even more restrictive for who can qualify to behind the door and the Captain has final authority to approve access for a qualified individual.

Yes, there are edge cases; no it’s not worth discussing.

 

[oldag]

Decades ago on a overbooked flight I sat in a jumpseat (not in the cockpit). Flew a lot and the stewardesses knew me. Doubt that would happen today.

 

[Crawdaddi0]

Decades ago on an overbooked flight I sat in a jumpseat (not in the cockpit). Flew a lot and the stewardesses knew me. Doubt that would happen today.

Same here. It was pre-9/11 and I was flying with over a dozen other roadies and band members when I did video for concerts. At the time, I felt like the odd man out, but it occurred to me the other day how rare it probably was and impossible these days. Kind of cool.

 

[majormadmax]

After this, you can kiss any chance of sitting in a jump seat goodbye!

An off-duty pilot riding as a passenger in the jump seat of the cockpit of an Alaska Airlines flight Sunday tried to seize control of the plane headed from Seattle to San Francisco, forcing the flight to divert to Portland, Oregon, according to the airline and a source familiar with the matter.

A pilot assigned to the flight told air traffic controllers a person riding in the cockpit of flight 2059 attempted to turn off the aircraft’s engines in flight. Pilots will occasionally ride a cockpit “jump seat” when traveling in an official capacity or commuting to another airport.

Joseph Emerson, 44, has been arrested by the Port of Portland Police Department and charged with 83 felony counts of attempted murder, 83 counts of reckless endangerment and one count of endangering an aircraft, online booking records show...

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/23/us/alaska-airlines-passenger/index.html

 

[oohrah]

Airlines still use the jump set to move crew who are dead heading. The security procedures are tighter than TSA. No security can prevent a credentialed person from doing evil or going mad.

I suspect their maybe new rules coming out of this.

 

[Crawdaddi0]

I suspect their maybe new rules coming out of this.

Before you sit down, how many pink elephants are in the cockpit with us? Nope, he sits in the back.

 

[BBL]

BTDT. But rules have changed so that's in the past.

 

[toddnjoyce]

…I suspect their maybe new rules coming out of this.

I doubt it; air travel will shut down if crew can’t deadhead in a JS. Many of the large airlines have reciprocal agreements, too. You’d be surprised at how many pilots for the big four FedEx moves.

 

[TXAZ]

No security can prevent a credentialed person from doing evil or going mad.

“A dedicated attacker will always succeed.”
(in any endeavor)

 

[toddnjoyce]

“A dedicated attacker will always succeed.”
(in any endeavor)

This dude was just going thru a bad trip.

 

[Wudidiz]

Just a bad trip that could have impacted alot of people. He should be put away.

 

[kbaxter60]

No security can prevent a credentialed person from doing evil or going mad.

Going mad? He revealed today that it was magic mushrooms.

 

[robertc1024]

I watched this youboob video yesterday about this. I'm no pilot, but this guy's channel is pretty good.

 

[Tex929rr]

Read about FedEx flight 705 if you really want a good scare. That guy could have killed lots of people on the ground (his probable goal). My wife was friends with all the crew members.