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  • Younggun

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    "The law is considerably broad, and doesn't give much leeway to intruders who feel the act was unjustified, which is why some people think a line must be drawn as to what is considered reasonably justified."


    Those poor intruders.......



    Also, current poll results:
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    ROGER4314

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    I'm a great fan of the good guys whipping the bad guys but I don't think that's happening at an increased rate. Have you noticed that everything related to guns is pushed onto the front pages of the media?

    The articles go on & on into minute detail and are repeated, referred to, followed up and referenced constantly! Every article references Sandy Hook and replays the horrible carnage. Some of their stories are so trivial and repeated so often that we wonder if they'll "give it a rest!"

    Firearms violence in the US barely nudges the peg off of the meter! Bloomberg wants our people to think that it's a HUGE issue in the US.

    Look at firearms death statistics in the US. They won't tell you that fully 1/2 of the firearms deaths in the US are suicides. Subtract suicides from those death records and it plays a different tune. Suicides are currently represented as violent crimes! It's just another manipulation of the facts.

    That policy is directly in the clutches of people like Bloomberg who control the media and choose what stories are emphasized. Guns, guns, guns, guns................shit! Enough! That''s Bloomberg's plan ............to keep our noses shoved into the subject of guns and his gun control agendas.

    No, it's not a matter of self defense incidents increasing. I believe we're seeing the results of media coverage of gun subjects in sickening and obnoxious detail.

    Holder referred to "Brainwashing" our kids to turn them away from guns. Bloomberg is brainwashing our citizens into buying his gun control agendas and to make the "problem" of guns much bigger than really is.

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    Younggun

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    Look at firearms death statistics in the US. They won't tell you that fully 1/2 of the firearms deaths in the US are suicides. Subtract suicides from those death records and it plays a different tune. Suicides are currently represented as violent crimes! It's just another manipulation of the facts.



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    To add to this point, it has been shown time and time again that restricting firearms ownership has no effect on suicide rates. It's used many times by libs, "(insert number) people commit suicide with firearms every year, those lives could be saved". They couldn't, at least not through gun control.

    The most obvious proof of this comes from Australia where guns were restricted and confiscated almost overnight. You can look at suicide rates in the years before and after almost every type of firearm was made either illegal, or its ownership severely restricted. It had absolutely no effect on suicide rates.

    The number of suicides as it relates to firearms is irrelevant. Firearms have no effect on suicide rates.
     
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    Statistics.....

    Even the Mack daddy FBI crimp data is flawed. For any kind of study to have a resemblance of actual fact. It needs to calculated from at least 5 teams of other people with different veiws. The problem with that is you get 5 different results. Even in simple things as asking yes no questions. The group being asked the questions can vary on their answer. The 'big picture' is a very elusive critter.

    These internet polls are a joke. They have no scientific base. The questions they ask are vague. The only truth is Sunday's newspaper is the coupons and the price you paid for the paper. Then only truth on the internet, is how much battery life is left on your computer.
     

    StevenC.

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    Who edits these stories?

    "Amarillo, TX - Using deadly force to defend your life or property has come under fire lately because some people believe Texas law offering protection to shooters is too broad. The castle doctrine gives power to shooters who feel threatened, and no longer requires them to retreat before using deadly force."

    The statute says NOTHING about feeling threatened.

    The statute declares the use of deadly force is presumed reasonable when someone with force, unlawfully enters or is attempting to enter your home, or remove your from it.

    Which reminds me... have you read your Justification statutes this month?

    http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/docs/PE/htm/PE.9.htm

    Sec. 9.32. DEADLY FORCE IN DEFENSE OF PERSON. (a) A person is justified in using deadly force against another:
    (1) if the actor would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.31; and
    (2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
    (A) to protect the actor against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force; or
    (B) to prevent the other's imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.
    (b) The actor's belief under Subsection (a)(2) that the deadly force was immediately necessary as described by that subdivision is presumed to be reasonable if the actor:
    (1) knew or had reason to believe that the person against whom the deadly force was used:
    (A) unlawfully and with force entered, or was attempting to enter unlawfully and with force, the actor's occupied habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment;
    (B) unlawfully and with force removed, or was attempting to remove unlawfully and with force, the actor from the actor's habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment;
     

    ROGER4314

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    The fact that guns are available has nothing to do with the suicide rate in the US. One of my students graduated and found life to be harder than he expected. He drank anti freeze. I understand that antifreeze is a hard way to go but it did the job.

    If folks really want to check out, the presence or absence of firearms is of no significance. In this, Younggun and I seem to agree.

    It's a disgrace for Liberals to combine suicide by firearms and violent firearm incidents to skew statistics and make them support gun controls. HALF of those US firearm deaths are suicides!

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