Atf rule banning private sales requires FFL rumored for fall.

[Hoji]

I posted that as a joke. I would never do a BOS and won't buy or sell if it's a requirement. There are members on this forum who have required a BOS for ammo.

And one that required it for a pocket knife( well, actually, same guy that required it for ammo)

 

[Texasgordo]

And one that required it for a pocket knife( well, actually, same guy that required it for ammo)

Wow! I didn't know about the pocket knife BOS.

 

[Hoji]

Wow! I didn't know about the pocket knife BOS.

I asked him why a BOS and ID requirement on an item that could be legally purchased by a 12 year old and got the “ muh protection” line

 

[jetcycles]

And one that required it for a pocket knife( well, actually, same guy that required it for ammo)

BOS for ammo and knives??? Hard pass.

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[Texasgordo]

I asked him why a BOS and ID requirement on an item that could be legally purchased by a 12 year old and got the “ muh protection” line

What a fucking tool.

 

[benenglish]

... From what I'm understanding of the new rule is that if you make any profit from a gun sale then you are required to be a dealer. Using another dealer for the transfer doesn't alleviate the condition.

Not my reading but I'm not a good source on this. I haven't studied as much as I should since I feel pretty sure it's going to be discussed and analyzed ad nauseum for the next few years. I really don't want to start early. That said...

Real, quantifiable profit, i.e. selling guns with the intent of making a living, was a critical element of the previous definition. The new wording seems designed to remove true profit (making a living) from the equation and simply allow the government to assert that any sale constitutes dealing for profit, whether there's a profit or evidence of a profit or not. IOW, it seems designed to define dealer as broadly as possible, thus allowing the ATF to be as random in enforcement as they find expedient, whatever the reason.

I've said this before but the chief LEO responsible for GCA68 enforcement in Boston when it passed (and I'm not sure exactly what agency that was at the time) was quoted as saying he would prosecute as an unlicensed dealer anyone in his jurisdiction who sold more than one gun per year.

The new wording gives the ATF the leeway to do exactly that. And worse.

The reasoning behind all this seems, from my point of view, to be twofold.

1. It's always a public good to make life shittier for gun owners because the 2A is a relic we need to disembowel, neuter, and remove, and
2. If we keep this up, every firearm on the continent will eventually go through a dealer so that when we finally, publicly stand up our universal gun registration database, after spending a few more years copying 4473 data into it, it will be as complete as possible.

I agree with Sasquatch; more people are about to take up 3D printing as a hobby.

 

[jetcycles]

What a fucking tool.

Properly indoctrinated government slave, how sad. Probably mutters phrases along the lines of "if you're not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about" and other nonsense of the sort. That's the type of person I imagine snot nose crying when the boots are on their neck for once while mumbling "but please, I have all of my papers right here" while waving a stack of useless garbage in the air as if anyone actually gives a ****. Poor cuck is probably reading this from atop of their tall horse while totally oblivious to their own superiority complex.

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[zackmars]

I require a BOS for everything i sell. Just the other day I sold an RC car to my neighbors kid and made him fill one out.

 

[racknsac]

And away we go.

Biden wants to ban private sales unless you have an ffl. Cause all guns go up in value and youre making a profit. They also want to end online sale.

You can thank Cornhole for phucking us on this one.

New Leak Shows ATF Will Pass Rule to Eliminate Private Sales

The Biden administration will use executive orders and the weaponized ATF to issue a rule limiting the private sales of firearms.

www.ammoland.com

I do believe we've finally arrived at a point of secession from the Union.

 

[covelli007]

And away we go.

Biden wants to ban private sales unless you have an ffl. Cause all guns go up in value and youre making a profit. They also want to end online sale.

You can thank Cornhole for phucking us on this one.

New Leak Shows ATF Will Pass Rule to Eliminate Private Sales

The Biden administration will use executive orders and the weaponized ATF to issue a rule limiting the private sales of firearms.

www.ammoland.com

This is why democrats shouldn’t have guns, they support this crap so they should be banned from buying guns

 

[seeker_two]

Politicians should keep BOS and make them available publicly so we know who bought whom....

 

[racknsac]

Maybe time for Texas to secede.

 

[motorcarman]

Gov't mandates that the ATF REQUIRES FFL application/approval for all gun sales!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The ATF REVOKES ALL 'suspect' FFLs.

Problem solved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Hoji]

I do believe we've finally arrived at a point of succession from the Union.

Maybe time for Texas to succeed.

 

[45Colt]

I do believe we've finally arrived at a point of succession from the Union.

Agreed my friend

 

[BigRed]

Maybe time for Texas to succeed.

Succeed at what?

Your handlers suck....but then again they always do.

 

[racknsac]

Succeed at what?

Your handlers suck....but then again they always do.

Thats SECEDE dummy!!

 

[seeker_two]

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[Bozz10mm]

Free gun with ammo purchase.

No, they have that covered too.

Beginning with the last paragraph on Page 26 and reading into the first paragraph of page 27, the reader sees clearly that the ATF is defining the terms: “Defining these terms to include any method of payment for a firearm would clarify that persons cannot avoid the licensing requirement by, for instance, bartering or providing or receiving services in exchange for firearms with the predominant intent to earn pecuniary gain even where no money is exchanged.”

 

[45Colt]

Thats SECEDE dummy!!

LOL you was talking about we got mice yeah I believe you're right I do wonder about some of the clowns that get on these forums I do believe we got some federal Stooges No Doubt loser farian