Baltimore Major Bridge Collapse

[popper]

Apparently (per above) they did drop port anchor and got propulsion back but too late. Assume a 60 ft channel, not enough room to do much dragging. At that time, it would only attempt to slow the ship, which can still rotate. I imagine full reverse was REAL noisy! Takes a while to get the props to really reverse.
Interestinghttps://www.vesselfinder.com/news/6675-VIDEO-Mega-container-ship-Dali-Allided-with-berth-at-Port-of-Antwerp

WATCH: VesselFinder AIS data reconstruction of the allision of container ship DALI with the Francis Scott Key Bridge, Baltimore

The Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore collapsed after the container ship DALI ran into it. The collision occurred on Tuesday, 26th March 2024 at around 1:30 am LT. Multiple vehicles were on the bridge at the time, including one the size of a ...

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Dali is propelled by a single low-speed two-stroke crosshead diesel engine coupled to a fixed-pitch propeller. 55kHP engine. So the gotta stop the engine, restart in reverse!! FUN. Ala Merc outboard motors of the '40s. Prop would probably take up a modern 3 car garage. Figure the ft-# at 400 RPM.

 

[TheDan]

Even after they clear the wreckage, this is going to be Baltimore's "new normal".

 

[TheDan]

How about disgruntled employee said he was going to ram bridge and they tried to shut off power to stop him and it did not work.

It's probably not in the harbor pilot's job description to beat the shit out of anyone attempting to do so, but it aught to be.

Does anyone know who the harbor pilots were? Just curious...

 

[Ausländer]

That bridge was also the specifically built to move hazardous material (fuel, gas, chemicals, etc) that could not fit in the tunnels. It was also one of the busiest roadways in the National Capital Region - which is saying a lot if you've ever had the misfortune to drive 95, 270, 495, 395 in that area.

It will take years to rebuild (properly) and Dundalk is/was a major shipping port.

 

[AKM47]

It will take years to rebuild (properly) and Dundalk is/was a major shipping port.

I believe it's the 6th largest in the US

 

[General Zod]

It will take years to rebuild (properly) and Dundalk is/was a major shipping port.

Clearing the debris will at least make the port accessible. Just...without one of the major routes for goods to follow out of the area. So it'll definitely be slower for a few years.

 

[Tnhawk]

That bridge was also the specifically built to move hazardous material (fuel, gas, chemicals, etc) that could not fit in the tunnels. It was also one of the busiest roadways in the National Capital Region - which is saying a lot if you've ever had the misfortune to drive 95, 270, 495, 395 in that area.

It will take years to rebuild (properly) and Dundalk is/was a major shipping port.

No problem, as Biden's EVs and renewables will have replaced the need for gas and fuel soon.

 

[popper]

Pilots probably were about to disembark about that time. They were usually getting off just before we left under the Golden Gate. Tugs left real early, just after the main turn, per above.

 

[roadkill]

Multiple intel sources: Baltimore bridge collapse was an “absolutely brilliant strategic attack” on US critical infrastructure - most likely cyber - & our intel agencies know it. In information warfare terms, they just divided the US along the Mason Dixon line exactly like the Civil War. Second busiest strategic roadway in the nation for hazardous material now down for 4-5 years - which is how long they say it will take to recover. Bridge was built specifically to move hazardous material - fuel, diesel, propane gas, nitrogen, highly flammable materials, chemicals and oversized cargo that cannot fit in the tunnels - that supply chain now crippled. Make no mistake: this was an extraordinary attack in terms of planning, timing & execution. The two critical components on that bridge are the two load-bearing pylons on each end, closest to the shore. They are bigger, thicker and deeper than anything else. These are the anchor points and they knew that hitting either one one of them would be a fatal wound to the integrity of the bridge. Half a mile of bridge went in the river - likely you will have to build a new one. Also caused so much damage to the structural integrity of the bottom concrete part that you cannot see & won’t know until they take the wreckage apart. Structural destruction likely absolute. Attack perfectly targeted. “They have figured out how to bring us down. As long as you stay away from the teeth of the US military, you can pick the US apart. We are arrogant and ignorant - lethal combination. Obama said they would fundamentally change America and they did. We are in a free-fall ride on a roller coaster right now - no brakes - just picking up speed.” The footage shows the cargo ship never got in the approach lane in the channel. You have to be in the channel before you get into that turn. Location was precise/deliberate: chose a bend in the river where you have to slow down and commit yourself - once you are committed in that area there is not enough room to maneuver. Should have had a harbor pilot to pilot the boat. You are not supposed to traverse any obstacles without the harbor pilot. They chose a full moon so they would have maximum tidal shift - rise and fall. Brisk flow in that river on a normal day & have had a lot of rain recently so water was already moving along at a good pace. Hit it with enough kinetic energy to knock the load-bearing pylon out from under the highway - which fatally weakens the span and then 50 percent of the bridge fell into the water. All these factors when you look at it - this is how you teach people how to do this type of attack and there are so few people left in the system who know this. We have a Junior varsity team on the field. Tremendous navigational obstruction. Huge logistical nightmare to clean this up. Number of dead is tragic but not the whole measure of the attack. That kind-of bridge constantly under repair - always at night because there is so much traffic and they cannot obstruct that during the day. So concern is for repair guys who were on foot (out of their vehicles) working who may now be in the water - 48 degrees at most at this time of year. When you choke off Baltimore you have cut the main north-south hazardous corridor (I95) in half. Now has to go around the city - or go somewhere else. To move some of that cargo through the tunnel you may be able to get a permit but those are slow to get and require an escort system that is expensive and has to be done at night. For every $100 dollars that goes into the city, $12 comes from shipping. Believe this will cripple the city of Baltimore at a time when they do not have the resources to recover.

 

[majormadmax]

 

[popsgarland]

I'm (kinda) surprised that we haven't heard the words...............TRUMPS FAULT yet.

 

[majormadmax]

Multiple intel sources...

More horseshit claiming "multiple intel sources" but providing none!

I guess peoples' feeble little minds cannot accept anything being an accident anymore!

By the way, I work in one of those "cyber - & our intel agencies" and there's nothing to indicate this was an attack!

Plus, how many ports along the east coast are there outside of Baltimore?

And how many other transportation routes are there around the city?

Yes, this was a HAZMAT route but another can easily be established.

The channel will be open in a matter of days or weeks.

Shipping will continue.

A new bridge will be built.

And traffic around Baltimore, as always, will continue to suck!

Honestly, I feel more stupid having read that Tweet or whatever they can posts on X these days!!

 

[majormadmax]

Real news/information...

"The Coast Guard and other agencies are currently searching for as many as 20 individuals, and at least two survivors have been rescued."

 

[Texasgordo]

I'm (kinda) surprised that we haven't heard the words...............TRUMPS FAULT yet.

Obviously caused by racism and transphobia

 

[AKM47]

I'm (kinda) surprised that we haven't heard the words...............TRUMPS FAULT yet.

Just wait, they're still looking

 

[popsgarland]

By the way, I work in one of those "cyber - & our intel agencies" and there's nothing to indicate this was an attack!

And because you work in one of those "cyber - & our intel agencies" as a janitor
everyone is wrong except you?

No matter what the real issue was, there will always be someone trying to convince us that their assessment is the correct one.

 

[Texasgordo]

Baltimore Mayor demands media stops using video of bridge collapse

The Dali crashed into the bridge in the earlier hours of Tuesday morning, and footage showed the Key Bridge collapsing into the river - with Mayor Brandon Scott now asking media to not share the footage.

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WTF? Kind of hard to hide it now.

 

[Gordo]

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Have been waiting for someone to claim space lasers, with doctored vid showing photo shopped proof.
One moron on X showed the video when the Ukrainians hit the bridge from Crimea to Russia with a drone boat, claiming that it was FSK bridge.

 

[Ausländer]

And how many other transportation routes are there around the city?

Yes, this was a HAZMAT route but another can easily be established.

Yup, the channel will be cleared and the port will continue to operate, but the bottleneck will still be the roads/congestion.

I lived in the DMV for way too many years, and my daughter lives in Baltimore now (unfortunately), so I'm familiar with the roads and traffic also. There are other routes through and around the city but they were barely able to hold their own before, the additional traffic hitting them will be interesting for traffic engineers but will be hell on commuters.

There's a reason that folks will drive from the suburbs of Baltimore to fly out of Dulles or Reagan instead of BWI and it's not because of ticket prices....

 

[roadkill]

More horseshit claiming "multiple intel sources" but providing none!

I guess peoples' feeble little minds cannot accept anything being an accident anymore!

By the way, I work in one of those "cyber - & our intel agencies" and there's nothing to indicate this was an attack!

Plus, how many ports along the east coast are there outside of Baltimore?

And how many other transportation routes are there around the city?

Yes, this was a HAZMAT route but another can easily be established.

The channel will be open in a matter of days or weeks.

Shipping will continue.

A new bridge will be built.

And traffic around Baltimore, as always, will continue to suck!

Honestly, I feel more stupid having read that Tweet or whatever they can posts on X these days!!

Just annother opinion on the cause. No different than others speculating electrical malfunction, or engine down or whatever. but honestly if the news/govt comes out and says without a doubt it was mechanical issues that caused the incident will you just blindly believe them given their track record? seems too perfect to not be terrorism related. So in addition to food plants and other critical infrastructure we can now add port bridges to the list of coincidences In recent years.