Bayonets

[CavCop]

Any fans of bayonets? Are they underrated or outdated? For survival? For home defense? Civil unrest?

In this video I go over the M58 CETME and some others.

 

[BigRed]

Meh.

Arguments either way....don't give a damn.

Bayonets are useful.

Every more so when executed well.

 

[Big Green]

I finally ordered an OKC-3S the other week. Next I need to set up a bayonet course like we had at Parris Island.

 

[CavCop]

I finally ordered an OKC-3S the other week. Next I need to set up a bayonet course like we had at Parris Island.

Is that one the pig sticker? The long brown bayonet? Been years since I ran some courses but the commands and moves are still fresh.

The 16” barrel kind of made the bayonet go away on the AR’s.

 

[A1Oni]

bayonets are good for psychological intimidation and maybe as a tool, but if fighting had to get close and personal id just use an axe tbh.

 

[majormadmax]

I collect Soviet/Warsaw Pact AK bayonets, and have a few others I've picked up over the years.

I believe they have worth in certain combat situations, but their usefulness on the battlefield is becoming less and less.

The last major bayonet charge in American military history took place on a hill in Korea on February 7, 1951.

Company commander Lewis Millet led E company of the 2nd Bat, 27th Reg (7th Div) up a hill, capturing the hill against heavy enemy resistance. 20 of the enemy were found to have died as a result of being bayoneted.

There is a claim the last real bayonet charge was in May 2004 conducted by the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders in Iraq, known as the Battle of Danny Boy. While waiting for reinforcements the British were involved in one of the fiercest engagements they fought in Iraq. The fighting involved close-quarter rifle fire and bayonets.

These British troops launched a 'proper angry' bayonet charge during the Iraq War

Jihadi propaganda told young fighters that Western armies would run from ambushes and not engage in close combat. They were wrong.

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There isn't a single explanation as to why they had to use bayonets, or how many casualties were caused by them.

The Scots Guards also assaulted Argentinian positions using bayonets during the Falklands War in 1982.

In 2010, the US Army discontinued Bayonet drills in favor of calisthenics training.

But I will admit, I did buy one of these on a lark...

 

[G O B]

The old milsurps should have a matching bayonet to keep them safe!

 

[Sam7sf]

They are nice to have as brush tools against critters or a Sasquatch trying to butt **** you.

 

[Moonpie]

I’m a fan.
Only have a few nowadays.
Agree with the previous poster that they’re most effective as an intimidation tool.
My favorite post hurricane anti-looter device is an 1897 Winchester Trench gun with a M1917 bayonet attached. Lootie will think twice.

 

[CavCop]

I collect Soviet/Warsaw Pact AK bayonets, and have a few others I've picked up over the years.

I believe they have worth in certain combat situations, but their usefulness on the battlefield is becoming less and less.

The last major bayonet charge in American military history took place on a hill in Korea on February 7, 1951.

Company commander Lewis Millet led E company of the 2nd Bat, 27th Reg (7th Div) up a hill, capturing the hill against heavy enemy resistance. 20 of the enemy were found to have died as a result of being bayoneted.

There is a claim the last real bayonet charge was in May 2004 conducted by the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders in Iraq, known as the Battle of Danny Boy. While waiting for reinforcements the British were involved in one of the fiercest engagements they fought in Iraq. The fighting involved close-quarter rifle fire and bayonets.

These British troops launched a 'proper angry' bayonet charge during the Iraq War

Jihadi propaganda told young fighters that Western armies would run from ambushes and not engage in close combat. They were wrong.

www.wearethemighty.com

There isn't a single explanation as to why they had to use bayonets, or how many casualties were caused by them.

The Scots Guards also assaulted Argentinian positions using bayonets during the Falklands War in 1982.

In 2010, the US Army discontinued Bayonet drills in favor of calisthenics training.

But I will admit, I did buy one of these on a lark...

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Yes, I cover some of it in my video and at the end showed some Russian bayonets we got in Iraq. I kind of wish I kept more of the different AK bayonets I had. But got them to give away and having 20 plus seemed excessive

I kind of get why the Russians and East/Europe mounted bayonets upside down, but do you know why the Russian bayonets have the hand lanyard reversed as well? I assume it was more for blocking and maybe side stabs?

 

[seeker_two]

Unless you're out of ammo and need your rifle to become a spear, it's time has passed. A good field knife or machete is far more useful....

 

[BeatTheTunaUp]

Useful? Sure, but there are better tools. That being said, every rifle I own with a bayonet lug has a correct matching bayonet because it just completes the package.

 

[PGB777]

Any fans of bayonets? Are they underrated or outdated? For survival? For home defense? Civil unrest?

In this video I go over the M58 CETME and some others.

Bayonets are pretty cool.

 

[Southpaw]

Bayonets are pretty cool.

I like turtles

 

[craigntx]

I liked this bulgarian bayo enough to get a 2nd. The guy stamped the last 4 of my serial # for me

 

[CavCop]

Bayonets are pretty cool.

They are a neat part of history. I do question if the future military firearms will have them and if soldiers will train with them.
They are a good option for civil unrest, that seems to be a direction most places are going to. More for intimidation and a less lethal compliance, be it at riots or your own property, vs just shooting people.

Under Texas law, the threat of force, is not the same as the use of force.

Sec. 9.04. THREATS AS JUSTIFIABLE FORCE. The threat of force is justified when the use of force is justified by this chapter. For purposes of this section, a threat to cause death or serious bodily injury by the production of a weapon or otherwise, as long as the actor's purpose is limited to creating an apprehension that he will use deadly force if necessary, does not constitute the use of deadly force.

 

[BeatTheTunaUp]

All the old girls belong with a blade.

 

[TreyG-20]

All the old girls belong with a blade.
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Do AKM bayonets fit that Galil or Does it have different type of lug?

 

[BeatTheTunaUp]

Do AKM bayonets fit that Galil or Does it have different type of lug?

It uses the same bayonet as the AR, an M7.

 

[Texasjack]

I am reminded of a joke from WWI. A sergeant is teaching the young recruits the finer points of the use of a bayonet. Sergeant: "..and if your bayonet gets stuck, just fire a round and it will dislodge it." A young private from Texas spoke up: "Sarge, if I have a round left, that Hun ain't gettin' close enough to get stuck on my bayonet."