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  • cuate

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    Soros got rich by robbing, cheating, crookedness, and treason to his own prople. And then manipulating markets and evil plotting. They changed their family name to avoid the Nazis which is understandable, but why not change it back to the family name after the Nazis were kaput ? The language barred by this site prevents my suggesting where his toy, obama came from but we know that obama's grandparents were supposedly communists, his mother likewise and on and on.

    We conservative American patriots must and can quench the flames of the Soros,obama pasture fire in our Country by being registered to vote in the upcoming November National elections and literally flushing the liberal Congressional and Senate commodes thereby etching the support from the present head honcho in Washington as well as Soros' influence in Washington. Don't let us just sit and jaw about it...Get with the idea and vote !
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    Now, if you would like to go and RESEARCH the subject of George Soros like your liberal media friend Mr Kroft did and then come back with hard facts disputing what he wrote, and what Mr Soros said in the interview, please feel free to do so.

    This entire rant is pieced together from online blogs. Namely this one:

    http://www.bobpearcy.com/george-soros-obamas-puppet-master/

    Just because there are 6 lines from a one hour interview by Steve Kroft, does not mean you can attribute this entire ridiculous piece to him.

    I can't even begin to respond to each silly claim, but here are a few noteworthy examples:

    1) In 1997 Soros almost destroyed the economies of Thailand and Malaysia
    response: There are no sources or evidence given to explain this claim, or verify it.

    2) Hungary fined Soros millions for currency manipulation
    respone: No online evidence was obtained. Not that this BLOG named any sources, or even an explanation as to what exactly is being claimed.

    3) Obama promised 10 billion dollars to Brazil oil for Petrobas
    response: Didn't happen. Give me a source.

    4)Soros owns "most" of the mainstream media, which is ignoring the tea party.
    response: Ignoring how? They are in the news every day. And if you think anyone has more influence over mainstream media than Rupert Murdoch, the right wing conservative king of manipulation, maybe you can get together a coherent claim with some sources.

    I'm not going to go on. There seem to be 100 different claims in this "article", most of which are never fully defined - let alone backed up by any near-reputable journalist or source. I have no knowlege of George Soros or his dealings, but I don't need any to see this conservative propoganda for what it is.

     

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    Go ahead and defend Soros. You will be defending a bum. You say you have no knowledge of Soros or his dealings. Perhaps it would do you some good to look into that. If you continue to defend a bum, then what does that make you?
     

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    Originally Posted by opiateofmasses
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    In early 1997, Soros' funds were shorting Thailand's currency, the baht, and Malaysia's currency, the ringgit -- that is, betting that the value of both currencies would drop. In July, Thailand dropped its defenses, devaluing the baht. That set off the wave of devaluations in Malaysia and elsewhere that marked the beginning of the current global economic turmoil.
    Soros said that by the time of the devaluations, his funds had become active buyers of the currencies, believing that they had already hit bottom. But that did not shield him from withering accusations, mainly from Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad of Malaysia.
    http://www.streetstories.com/gs_art_obrien.html

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    From the wires:
    BUDAPEST – Billionaire investor George Soros’s Soros Fund Management was fined 489 million forint ($2.2 million) for attempting to manipulate the share price of OTP Bank, Hungary’s largest bank, the country’s financial regulator said.
    http://terryfrank.net/?p=3872

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    U.S. Government to Loan Brazil's Petrobras $10 Billion
    The U.S. government is preparing to provide up to $10 billion in loans to finance the development of massive hydrocarbon reserves off Brazil’s coast thought to contain 80 billion barrels of high-quality crude, an amount that could lead to a six-fold increase in Brazil’s current proven reserves and transform that nation into one of the world’s 10 largest oil producers.
    U.S. Government to Loan Brazil's Petrobras $10 Billion

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    You're full of baloney
     

    West Texas

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    This entire rant is pieced together from online blogs. Namely this one:

    http://www.bobpearcy.com/george-soros-obamas-puppet-master/

    Just because there are 6 lines from a one hour interview by Steve Kroft, does not mean you can attribute this entire ridiculous piece to him. ...

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    ...I'm not going to go on. There seem to be 100 different claims in this "article", most of which are never fully defined - let alone backed up by any near-reputable journalist or source. I have no knowlege of George Soros or his dealings, but I don't need any to see this conservative propoganda for what it is.

    If you would like to google something, google 60 minutes and you can find the actual interview with Mr Kroft going in to detail on each point brought out in the written transcript that was posted here. Funny that you would call the reporting of a LIBERAL NEWS OUTLET BY A LIBERAL REPORTER conservative propoganda.

    The Blog you quoted was taken from the INTERVIEW to try and do damage control, not the other way around.

    another damn libatard has joined our ranks...

     

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    4)Soros owns "most" of the mainstream media, which is ignoring the tea party.
    response: Ignoring how? They are in the news every day. And if you think anyone has more influence over mainstream media than Rupert Murdoch, the right wing conservative king of manipulation, maybe you can get together a coherent claim with some sources.

    I'm not going to go on. There seem to be 100 different claims in this "article", most of which are never fully defined - let alone backed up by any near-reputable journalist or source. I have no knowlege of George Soros or his dealings, but I don't need any to see this conservative propoganda for what it is.

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    What a shocker you have no knowledge of soros.....it's because the stations you watch don't do journalist reporting.
    They ask questions like he one yesterday. We have the mosque/muslim Quran burning issues, illegal immigration/boarder issues and this is what CNN ask about.

    Janet Fatty Napolitano was asked some really tought questions on CNN.
    She was asked to name her favorite food and the answer was spaghetti and meatballs. Gee, I guess she eats it three times a day every day.
    So....any more tough questions about homeland security?

    Here some Soros information.
    Here's Bloomburg from 8-14-09

    George Soros Cut Petrobras Stake in Second Quarter (Update2)
    By Saijel Kishan and Andres R. Martinez - August 14, 2009 19:12 EDT
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    Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) -- Billionaire George Soros cut his stake in his biggest holding, Petroleo Brasileiro SA, in the second quarter while buying more shares of other energy producers.

    His New York-based hedge-fund firm, Soros Fund Management LLC, sold 22 million U.S.-listed common shares of Petrobras, as the Brazilian oil company is known, according to a filing today with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Soros bought 5.8 million of the company’s U.S.-traded preferred shares.

    Soros is taking advantage of the spread between the two types of U.S.-listed Petrobras shares, said Luis Maizel, president of LM Capital Group LLC, which manages about $4 billion. The common shares were 21 percent more expensive than preferred today, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

    “He knows he held a voting right in the common shares that would never translate to actual power,” Maizel said in an interview from San Francisco. “He’s just playing the spread.”

    Petrobras preferred shares have also a 10 percent additional dividend, said William Landers, a senior portfolio manager for Latin America at Blackrock Inc.

    “Given that there will most likely never be a change in control in the company, I see no reason to pay a higher price for the common shares.” Brazil’s government controls Petrobras and has a majority stake of voting shares.

    Hess Stake

    Soros boosted his stake in oil company Hess Corp. to 5.1 million shares as of June 30 from 3.7 million at the end of the first quarter, according to the filing. Hess was Soros’s second- largest holding. He also added to stakes in Houston-based Plains Exploration & Production Co. and bought shares in Calgary-based Suncor Energy Inc. and InterOil Corp. in Sydney.

    Soros’s company oversees about $24 billion. His Quantum Endowment Fund returned 9.3 percent in the second quarter. Hedge funds gained an average of 9.1 percent during the period, according to data compiled by Hedge Fund Research Inc. in Chicago. The filing doesn’t reflect the Soros’s holdings in cash or other securities.

    Michael Vachon, a spokesman for Soros, declined to comment on the holdings.

    Soros cut his stake in Potash Corp. of Saskatchewan Inc., selling 4 million shares of the fertilizer producer while investing in Monsanto Co., the world’s largest seed producer.

    Money managers who oversee more than $100 million in equities must file a Form 13F within 45 days of each quarter’s end to list their U.S.-listed stocks, options and convertible bonds. The filings don’t show non-U.S. securities or how much cash the firms hold.

    Soros’s biggest sale in the second quarter was his stake in ConocoPhillips, the second-largest U.S. refiner after he sold 4 million shares. The hedge fund also sold its stake in Macy’s Inc., the second-biggest U.S. department-store chain.

    Feb. 17, 2009, 9:20 p.m. EST ·

    Soros reports 73.5% increase in Petrobras stake


    Billionaire investor George Soros on Tuesday reported that during the fourth quarter he increased his already considerable stakes in Brazilian state-controlled oil company Petroleo Brasileiro S.A. (PBR 35.64, -0.83, -2.27%) and Potash Corp. of Saskatchewan Inc. (POT 96.26, -1.47, -1.50%) .

    Soros, through his Soros Fund Management LLC, reported holding 36.8 million of the Brazilian oil company known as Petrobras as of Dec. 31 - a holding valued at about $900 million at the time. Soros held 21.2 million ADRs at Sept. 30, according to his disclosure filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

    Soros also reported holding $434 million in Potash shares as of Dec. 31 - a total of about 5.9 million shares. He reported holding 3.3 million Potash shares as of Sept. 30.

    Petrobras and Potash were the two largest stakes reported by the Soros fund as of Dec. 30.
    Heres the commitment:
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    U.S. Government to Loan Brazil's Petrobras $10 Billion
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    Posted on December 28, 2009 5:14:22 AM CST by mgist

    U.S. Government to Loan Brazil's Petrobras $10 Billion
    The U.S. government is preparing to provide up to $10 billion in loans to finance the development of massive hydrocarbon reserves off Brazil’s coast thought to contain 80 billion barrels of high-quality crude, an amount that could lead to a six-fold increase in Brazil’s current proven reserves and transform that nation into one of the world’s 10 largest oil producers.
    RIO DE JANEIRO – The U.S. government is prepared to provide up to $10 billion in loans to finance the development of massive hydrocarbon reserves off Brazil’s coast, a Brazilian official said Wednesday.
    President Barack Obama’s national security adviser, Gen. James Jones, discussed the matter with officials this week during a visit to the South American country, Brazilian Planning Minister Paulo Bernardo da Silva told reporters.
    He said the U.S. Export-Import Bank already has signed a letter of intent in that regard with Brazilian state oil company Petrobras.
     

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    People , well liberals, refer to Obama getting stuck with GW's mistakes all the time. They claim our economic issues were created by george. Then I ask them where was George while Clinton was in office. In a stupid responce, they add, George Bush ruined the economy and created the banking crisis.
    I often ask, Who Created Subprime Lending????

    Liberals, cant live with em, but you can dump em in the middle of the ocean!!!
     

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    George Bush ruined the economy and created the banking crisis.

    Another one that gets my dander up is when liberals bring up the statement "Bush bailed out the banks with the first TARP". Without thinking we just accept it and move on to another statement.

    Bush WAS president at the time but by that time Peelosi and Reid, with the urging of the telepromptered Obammy on the campaign trail, were rapidly changing the face of congress. Bush was beaten to a pulp by the left wing media and he could do nothing to stop them but whimper.

    CONGRESS passed TARP, with Obammy and Hitlery voting for it vociferously. It was the start of the country's slide into Socialism. Had Bush tried to veto it, he would have been drawn and quartered by Oglethorpe and The Drooler.
     
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    You're full of baloney

    I think you might be right on this one. Those were exactly the sort of sources I was looking for, and I stand corrected.

    While I still don't agree with many of the inferences the original post makes, I won't pretend I know enough to argue them. Soros appears to have many reasons to be scrutinized. His 'liberal agenda' isn't one of them, at least in my opinion... but to each his own.
     

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    I think you might be right on this one. Those were exactly the sort of sources I was looking for, and I stand corrected.

    While I still don't agree with many of the inferences the original post makes, I won't pretend I know enough to argue them. Soros appears to have many reasons to be scrutinized. His 'liberal agenda' isn't one of them, at least in my opinion... but to each his own.

    Why do I feel this is becoming an episode of "X-Files"?

    Funny....24 hours ago you knew enough to say none of it was true..Amazing what a difference 24 hours can make, and how easy it is to get past the propoganda from the left AND the right.

    The TRUTH is OUT THERE...and Google knows where "THERE" is!
     

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    X-Files - CSM -> The Cigarette Smoking Man. The mysterious dude that knows all the stuff Fox Moulder is trying to figure out through out the series and is always thwarting Moulder's efforts. Referenced from West Texas's:
    Why do I feel this is becoming an episode of "X-Files"?

    Thanks for killing the bit. Now that I had to explain it, it isn't funny anymore. Perhaps google or a guide to cultural and media references.
     

    West Texas

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    X-Files - CSM -> The Cigarette Smoking Man. The mysterious dude that knows all the stuff Fox Moulder is trying to figure out through out the series and is always thwarting Moulder's efforts. Referenced from West Texas's:


    Thanks for killing the bit. Now that I had to explain it, it isn't funny anymore. Perhaps google or a guide to cultural and media references.


    No, it's still funny
     

    TheDan

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    CONGRESS passed TARP, with Obammy and Hitlery voting for it vociferously. It was the start of the country's slide into Socialism. Had Bush tried to veto it, he would have been drawn and quartered by Oglethorpe and The Drooler.
    I never blamed Bush for it passing, but what did he really have to lose by vetoing it? Being a president on the downward slope of your 2nd term means you can do whatever the hell you want. I think part of the problem is that he's just another rino
     
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