Help me pick a rifle

[Lonesome Dove]

Headed out to the gun show in Cedar Rapids… hope to be able to examine and shoulder at least two or three of the four I’m considering

called all my LGSs and no one has one

my choice is ordering online or seeing if I can find one at the gun show

The Weatherby Vanguard is the same as the Howa 1500. The Weatherby has a nicer bolt shroud on all and trigger depending on years of manufature. Everything is 100% compatible for the two.
Side note: if you see a Bergara check it out as well.

 

[Dawico]

Savage guy myself but there are many good options out there.

You either love the Accutrigger or hate it. If you love it you'll never need to upgrade.

I always recommend a fully adjustable stock mainly because standard style hunting stocks don't fit me well.

For targets the thicker the barrel the better.

 

[easy rider]

The Weatherby Vanguard is the same as the Hoaw 1500. The Weatherby has a nicer bolt shroud on all and trigger depending on years of manufature. Everything is 100% compatible for the two.
Side note: if you see a Bergara check it out as well.

I was going to add Bergara to the list as well.

Seriously though, unless money is no object, research is your friend.

 

[Iowashooter]

I decided to try the Ruger... $532 + tax was my price

Now to find a scope I like

Here's a pic of the rifle and the specs

Ruger American Gen II Standard Model

MODEL NUMBER: 46909

CALIBER: 223 REM

Stock Gray Splatter Gen II American

Barrel Fluting Spiral

Barrel Length 20"

Barrel Finish Gun Metal Gray Cerakote

Thread Pattern 1/2"-28

Capacity 10

Magazine Type AR-Style

Sights None-Picatinny Scope Base

Material Alloy Steel

Weight 6.5 lb.

Twist1:8" RH

Overall Length 41.25"

Length of Pull 12" - 13.75"

Grooves 5

UPC 7-36676-46909-3

Suggested Retail $729.00

Splatter finished stock provides excellent grip without being too sharp or abrasive.

Soft rubber recoil pad features a large radius on the heel for easy shouldering and improved geometry that progressively collapses to reduce felt recoil.

Removing the installed spacer allows for length of pull to be adjusted from 13.75" to 12". Additional spacers of varying sizes for a more refined fit are available at ShopRuger.com.

Installed low comb improves sight alignment when using magnified optics but can be removed when utilizing low-mounted sights. More comb options are available at ShopRuger.com to further refine the fit.

Professionally applied Cerakote coating on barrel, muzzle brake, receiver and bolt handle results in a durable, easy-to-maintain finish.

Medium contour barrel features deep spiral flutes that reduce weight at the muzzle end of the barrel to improve balance without sacrificing stiffness or accuracy.

Threaded barrel with factory-installed radial port muzzle brake is cold hammer-forged, resulting in ultra-precise rifling that provides exceptional accuracy and longevity.

Intuitive three-position tang safety locks the bolt, preventing inadvertent bolt opening while allowing the rifle to be loaded with the safety engaged.

Ruger Marksman Adjustable™ trigger offers a crisp release with a pull weight that is user-adjustable between 3 and 5 pounds.

Patented Power Bedding™ integral bedding block system positively locates the receiver and free-floats the barrel for outstanding accuracy.

The one-piece bolt is CNC machined from stainless steel for smooth operation and the familiar three-lug design with 70° throw provides ample scope clearance.

Oversized bolt handle for positive bolt manipulation, with a 5/16"-24 thread pattern for easy replacement.

Factory-installed, one-piece Picatinny scope base.

Available accessory stock weight kit adds up to 1.6 pounds to the butt of the rifle to absorb recoil and improve the rifle's balance when utilizing heavier muzzle devices. Weight kit available on ShopRuger.com.

Also includes: one magazine; steel sling swivel studs.

 

[Lonesome Dove]

I decided to try the Ruger... $532 + tax was my price

Now to find a scope I like

Here's a pic of the rifle and the specs

View attachment 440938

Ruger American Gen II Standard Model

MODEL NUMBER: 46909

CALIBER: 223 REM

Stock Gray Splatter Gen II American

Barrel Fluting Spiral

Barrel Length 20"

Barrel Finish Gun Metal Gray Cerakote

Thread Pattern 1/2"-28

Capacity 10

Magazine Type AR-Style

Sights None-Picatinny Scope Base

Material Alloy Steel

Weight 6.5 lb.

Twist1:8" RH

Overall Length 41.25"

Length of Pull 12" - 13.75"

Grooves 5

UPC 7-36676-46909-3

Suggested Retail $729.00

Splatter finished stock provides excellent grip without being too sharp or abrasive.

Soft rubber recoil pad features a large radius on the heel for easy shouldering and improved geometry that progressively collapses to reduce felt recoil.

Removing the installed spacer allows for length of pull to be adjusted from 13.75" to 12". Additional spacers of varying sizes for a more refined fit are available at ShopRuger.com.

Installed low comb improves sight alignment when using magnified optics but can be removed when utilizing low-mounted sights. More comb options are available at ShopRuger.com to further refine the fit.

Professionally applied Cerakote coating on barrel, muzzle brake, receiver and bolt handle results in a durable, easy-to-maintain finish.

Medium contour barrel features deep spiral flutes that reduce weight at the muzzle end of the barrel to improve balance without sacrificing stiffness or accuracy.

Threaded barrel with factory-installed radial port muzzle brake is cold hammer-forged, resulting in ultra-precise rifling that provides exceptional accuracy and longevity.

Intuitive three-position tang safety locks the bolt, preventing inadvertent bolt opening while allowing the rifle to be loaded with the safety engaged.

Ruger Marksman Adjustable™ trigger offers a crisp release with a pull weight that is user-adjustable between 3 and 5 pounds.

Patented Power Bedding™ integral bedding block system positively locates the receiver and free-floats the barrel for outstanding accuracy.

The one-piece bolt is CNC machined from stainless steel for smooth operation and the familiar three-lug design with 70° throw provides ample scope clearance.

Oversized bolt handle for positive bolt manipulation, with a 5/16"-24 thread pattern for easy replacement.

Factory-installed, one-piece Picatinny scope base.

Available accessory stock weight kit adds up to 1.6 pounds to the butt of the rifle to absorb recoil and improve the rifle's balance when utilizing heavier muzzle devices. Weight kit available on ShopRuger.com.

Also includes: one magazine; steel sling swivel studs.

Good deal now buy at lest two more magazines for it.

 

[seeker_two]

I decided to try the Ruger... $532 + tax was my price

Now to find a scope I like

Here's a pic of the rifle and the specs

View attachment 440938

Ruger American Gen II Standard Model

MODEL NUMBER: 46909

CALIBER: 223 REM

Stock Gray Splatter Gen II American

Barrel Fluting Spiral

Barrel Length 20"

Barrel Finish Gun Metal Gray Cerakote

Thread Pattern 1/2"-28

Capacity 10

Magazine Type AR-Style

Sights None-Picatinny Scope Base

Material Alloy Steel

Weight 6.5 lb.

Twist1:8" RH

Overall Length 41.25"

Length of Pull 12" - 13.75"

Grooves 5

UPC 7-36676-46909-3

Suggested Retail $729.00

Splatter finished stock provides excellent grip without being too sharp or abrasive.

Soft rubber recoil pad features a large radius on the heel for easy shouldering and improved geometry that progressively collapses to reduce felt recoil.

Removing the installed spacer allows for length of pull to be adjusted from 13.75" to 12". Additional spacers of varying sizes for a more refined fit are available at ShopRuger.com.

Installed low comb improves sight alignment when using magnified optics but can be removed when utilizing low-mounted sights. More comb options are available at ShopRuger.com to further refine the fit.

Professionally applied Cerakote coating on barrel, muzzle brake, receiver and bolt handle results in a durable, easy-to-maintain finish.

Medium contour barrel features deep spiral flutes that reduce weight at the muzzle end of the barrel to improve balance without sacrificing stiffness or accuracy.

Threaded barrel with factory-installed radial port muzzle brake is cold hammer-forged, resulting in ultra-precise rifling that provides exceptional accuracy and longevity.

Intuitive three-position tang safety locks the bolt, preventing inadvertent bolt opening while allowing the rifle to be loaded with the safety engaged.

Ruger Marksman Adjustable™ trigger offers a crisp release with a pull weight that is user-adjustable between 3 and 5 pounds.

Patented Power Bedding™ integral bedding block system positively locates the receiver and free-floats the barrel for outstanding accuracy.

The one-piece bolt is CNC machined from stainless steel for smooth operation and the familiar three-lug design with 70° throw provides ample scope clearance.

Oversized bolt handle for positive bolt manipulation, with a 5/16"-24 thread pattern for easy replacement.

Factory-installed, one-piece Picatinny scope base.

Available accessory stock weight kit adds up to 1.6 pounds to the butt of the rifle to absorb recoil and improve the rifle's balance when utilizing heavier muzzle devices. Weight kit available on ShopRuger.com.

Also includes: one magazine; steel sling swivel studs.

Considering getting one of these for a light rifle that's cheaper for practice than my SMLE. The 10rd AR mags are a nice touch. Haven't decided if I want 5.56 or 300BLK.....

 

[V-Tach]

Good looking rifle..........

Will be awaiting a range group/target report.................

 

[TreyG-20]

Only thing that turns me off on the Ruger is that stock. If companies start making aftermarket stocks it will be a lot more appealing to me.

 

[Iowashooter]

Good deal now buy at lest two more magazines for it.

I have lots of AR mags of all sizes... including mags in 10, 20, 30 and 60 rds

it takes AR mags... so I'm all set

 

[Sam7sf]

I have a second gen from 2017 or so. These are good shooters.

 

[PinnedandRecessed]

Only thing that turns me off on the Ruger is that stock. If companies start making aftermarket stocks it will be a lot more appealing to me.

Magpul already makes one. https://magpul.com/hunter-american-stock-ruger-american-short-action.html?mp_global_color=118

 

[Txhighlander]

Magpul already makes one. https://magpul.com/hunter-american-stock-ruger-american-short-action.html?mp_global_color=118

Definitely an improvement over Ruger stocks.

 

[PinnedandRecessed]

I looked at the American in 223 but by the time you throw on a $300 stock it's not as good of a deal as it used to be.

I know OP already got his rifle but my suggestion would have been Bergara B-14 series. HMR, Ridge, Stoke. I like the AR mag fed versions. Makes life easier when you find a thriving prairie dog town.

 

[Iowashooter]

Me likely the Ruger stock that came with it …

 

[Lonesome Dove]

Me likely the Ruger stock that came with it …

It's cool because is un tacticool.

 

[popper]

magpul chassis and the Bergara, Howa or weatherby action.

 

[35 Whelen]

A couple of years ago I decided I probably should have bolt .223, just because, and because I kinda needed something in the laundry room gun rack for coyotes and hogs that sometimes wander up to the house.
Since I had a few hundred bucks on my Cabela's card and I'm a tight-ass, I chose the Savage Axis II package.

I didn't like the scope I mounted a Leupold 2-7X I had laying around. It didn't take long to put it into action-

I replaced the flimsy stock with a Boyd's laminated, and fire-lapped the bore with 77 gr. bullets from a Tubb's Lapping Kit. The 1-9" barrel isn't supposed to stabilize 77 gr. bullets, but it did pretty well-

The magazine capacity is supposed to be 4 rounds, but mine easily holds 5-

So there's my recommendation.

 

[rp-]

I picked up a ruger american predator gen 1 for the kids a few years back. With the right ammo it's a tack driver. I was shooting chains at the range with it.

Other advantage is the magazines. It uses AR mags. Cheap and plentiful, even 10 rounders. No proprietary mags or AI mags for it. Just my 2 cents.

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[zackmars]

Hi point 3095

 

[TreyG-20]

The Ruger has something I really want. Why 2 different chambers between the Predator and the Ranch though? One is 223 rem the other 5.56 nato. I would prefer the nato chamber in the 20 inch model. The fact they take AR mags is great. May have to settle for the Ranch myself. Then a Boyd's stock.