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toddnjoyce
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What the data does tell us is that UCW in it’s variety of flavors (prohibited weapon/prohibited place/prohibited person) is what’s going to get an arrest or conviction. Keeping that in mind, cops don’t usually hangout at private property looking for probable cause, much of the back and forth here is about opinions and not data. It’s cute and I love these guys, but this is what all that amounts to.
According to DPS data, a conviction for 30.05* or 30.06 isn’t on record and only a handful for 30.07. The .07 convictions were after oral notice given (by the cop that got called) and 05 hasn’t been around long enough to get meaningful data.
For all practical purposes, signs are fairly worthless if you’re not an asshole.
toddnjoyce
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Other than being attached to the Texas Penal Code, they (.05/.06/.07 signs) in practice are no different than a gun buster icon. I could dig thru the code for reasons why, but for most situations the state has said trespassing (which is what all this boils down to) requires oral notice to leave.
Now, if everyone is being searched (even with as little as a magnetometer) as a condition of entry, the rules change.
THERE IS NO CONFLICT OF RIGHTS OTHER THAN IN YOUR NAIVE AND DELUDED MIND PRIVATE PROPERTY STILL BELONGS TO THE PROPERTY IN YOUR WAY OF THINKING OWNERIN YOUR WAY OF THINKING IF YOU POST A NO SMOKING SIGNAT YOUR FRONT DOOR DOES THAT MEAN ANYONE CAN WALKINTO YOUR HOME AND LIGHT UP A CIGAR WITHOUT ANY CONQUENCES? BECUASE A PERSON COULD ARGUE THE SIGN DOESN'T CARRY THE WEIGHT OF THE LAW SO THERFOR CAN BE IGNORED!THE PROPERTY OWN CAN AT ANY TIME DECIDE WHAT THE DEEM TO BE TRESPASSINGI'LL RVEN SUSPECT THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME THE LAW IS GOING TO BE ON THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY OOWNER NOT THE GUEST WHOIGNOREDA SIGN!
I agree and herein lies the rub. The obverse applies to a preponderance of the membership, causing said signage to be the opposite of fairly worthless, present company excluded.
toddnjoyce
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I won’t give that a like, but I will say we’re on a downhill slide on the quality of members recently.
THE ONLY CONFLICT THATMAKES ANY DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER IS WHAT THE HECK IS THE MUHPRIVATE P=ROPERTY OWNER GONNA DO WHEN YOU CONCEAL AND CARRY EVEN IF HE HAS A CRAYON SIGN WITH A FROWNY FACE AND A CARTOON GUN? I CAN PUT UP A SIGN ON MY STORE THAT SAYS NO BUTTRANGERS BUT THE SHERIFF AINT GONNA COME AND ARREST YOU FRO BEING GAY.
General Zod
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He's recovering from a stroke. What's your excuse? Or are you being a jerk?
Seems able to challenge others’ thoughts on criminal trespass and applicability of signage and talk about dropping the soap. If you want to attack someone’s point of view from a weak position o understanding the law and be generally argumentative, then don’t cry stroke when someone gives it back to you. Or maybe I’m just drunk.…
General Zod
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Dude. Step back and listen to yourself. Axxe had a stroke a few months ago. He's getting the use of half his body back. It doesn't affect his reasoning. What's affecting your attitude here?
And he didn't "cry stroke", I informed you of it. He and I are not the same person.
If you think your position is so strong, maybe don't start mocking someone when you're trying to debate them.
Homework for the day.
Joke
Humor
Satire and the concepts of their use.
If you have time read your post about attacking people from a weak position and what it says about you.
Oh and axx has never said a word about his stroke in the wat you insinuate.
Seriously find a mirror.
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