Mexican national kills five people in Cleveland, Texas shooting...

[jimbo]

He has a border pass.

And a cellphone.

 

[General Zod]

Laws don't prevent bad guys from obtaining guns.

I dunno, maybe if they tried actually enforcing some of 'em, it might work. This bad guy wouldn't have had a gun if immigration law was enforced...

Or if he did, he'd have been in Mexico with it.

 

[smittyb]

Laws don't prevent bad guys from obtaining guns.

Oh, Golly gee wilikers , I had no idea!!

 

[Wudidiz]

I dunno, maybe if they tried actually enforcing some of 'em, it might work. This bad guy wouldn't have had a gun if immigration law was enforced...

Or if he did, he'd have been in Mexico with it.

My point is that passing more laws to restrict gun ownership (in the U.S. regardless of how you got here) is about as effective as outlawing drugs.

 

[General Zod]

My point is that passing more laws to restrict gun ownership (in the U.S. regardless of how you got here) is about as effective as outlawing drugs.

Which I agree with you on. Seems like at least one existing law could have prevented these deaths, though - since the local cops had been called before on complaints of this illegal alien firing his rifle in his yard. I would be amazed if that community doesn't have a minimum acreage requirement for shooting. Plus the fact that he was an illegal in posession should have been an issue...

...but the, the feds have made sure local and state authorities can't enforce any kind of immigration law. 'Cuz it's racist, don'cha know.

 

[candcallen]

Yep the county probably has rules against asking immigration status. That said in this case the absurdity of that is multiplied by the needless loss of life.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Which I agree with you on. Seems like at least one existing law could have prevented these deaths, though - since the local cops had been called before on complaints of this illegal alien firing his rifle in his yard. I would be amazed if that community doesn't have a minimum acreage requirement for shooting. Plus the fact that he was an illegal in posession should have been an issue...

...but the, the feds have made sure local and state authorities can't enforce any kind of immigration law. 'Cuz it's racist, don'cha know.

Amazingly, Texas does not include alien status as a prohibition to possession in TPC 46.04. The more I read in that portion of the code, the more I’m intrigued at the chapter as a whole and why we have 30.05/.06/.07 signs at all.

 

[gdr_11]

Laws don't prevent bad guys from obtaining guns.

Laws won't prevent anything without enforcement and prosecution

 

[Darkpriest667]

"A second source, within the Department of Homeland Security, told Fox News that Oropesa had been deported five times between 2009-2016."

So multiple deportations, in the country illegally yet again...and he had a Mexican consular ID?

 

[General Zod]

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Possibly. I would hope our "good neighbors down south" wouldn't bring a multiple deportee in as consular staff...but I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Posted a while back....

 

[toddnjoyce]

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No.

https://portales.sre.gob.mx/mex-eua/images/stories/PDF/MatriculaConsularMexicanaingnueva.pdf

 

[Lonesome Dove]

OMG he may have been spotted close to my area. I'm going into survival mode. Now where's my remote and ice tea?

 

[Darkpriest667]

No.

https://portales.sre.gob.mx/mex-eua/images/stories/PDF/MatriculaConsularMexicanaingnueva.pdf

Fascinating!

I guess Mexico can get a national ID card but the US can't do it for voting lol

 

[1911'S 4 Me]

For 80 g's someone will turn him in. Luckily, he will go out in a bang.
Hope it is a slow bleed- out.

 

[Tnhawk]

And a cellphone.

And votes democrat

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

Were I to receive the reward, I'd split it up and give it to the families of the murder victims.

Might help with funeral expenses...

 

[1911'S 4 Me]

Their consulates should do the paying, they are the citizens of their countries.

 

[DoubleDuty]

Let's see he's an illegal that should have been arrested for possession of firearms. Another fail by law enforcement. This is the reason citizens need guns

 

[DoubleDuty]

My point is that passing more laws to restrict gun ownership (in the U.S. regardless of how you got here) is about as effective as outlawing drugs.

The scum trying to pass those unconstitutional laws know that. This is about their quest to make all of us subjects. Decades of brainwashing with the help of the MSM is making it easier all the time. The dems told us that when they ignored the Supreme Court and passed their bill in the house.