Millennial Carjackers in San Antonio

[skfullgun]

Sometimes I think I would still like to drive a manual transmission, but between my knees and my hips hurting, I’ll stick with an automatic.

 

[MountainGirl]

Hadn't driven a stick for 40 years when I got my '91 Jeep last year. Pure joy. It was like I never didn't.

 

[Tnhawk]

I learned to drive in a ‘63 Dodge Dart, Slant 6 with three-on-the-tree. Good times, those!

I managed to drive a manual transmission when in high school but didn't really learn to drive a manual transmission until I purchased a Honda S800 coupe shortly after arriving on Okinawa in 1972.

 

[Darkpriest667]

I think it was the part about them not being able to drive a standard transmission...?

The youngest Millennials are almost 30. I'm a Millennial. I learned on a stick shift. Actually a left handed stick shift on a BMW. I also know how to do a 3 on a tree column shift.

 

[mongoose]

When I was 16 I learned to drive a stick shift before I
took my driving test.
It was my aunts 1950 Nash.LOL

My Mom had a 50’s something Nash. Someone tried to steal it one night. They couldn’t figure out the starter switch was located on the floor board.

 

[Cool 'Horn Luke]

My DMV road test was in a 1977 Datsun pickup, 4 on the floor. The craziest was an 18 speed semiautomatic pneumatic transmission (military heavy haul), that one definitely took a little getting use to.

 

[Txhillbilly]

Grew up driving standards, but you haven't done anything until you master a twin stick semi. Cut my teeth on a 64 Mack with a 5 & 4 twin stick when I was a teenager

 

[Southpaw]

I once tried to drive a standard transmission, but something was missing.

 

[TipBledsoe]

I once tried to drive a standard transmission, but something was missing.

 

[jmohme]

I'm not making the connection I guess. Millennials are in their 30's and 40's now. Most that I know grew up with standards.

And even at that age, a lot of them cant drive a stick.

Regardless, an idiot steeling a car that has to abandon it because he cant figure out how to drive it! That there is funny shit!

 

[BBL]

The article says he was shot as he was running away. That sounds like a gray area to me. Could a DA argue that the threat was gone if this is the case?

Not a grey area. There was no deadly threat and per Texas PC §9.42, you also may not use deadly force to protect theft of a vehicle (section (3)(A) ).
So if the DA wants to prosecute, the victim is going away for years.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Not a grey area. There was no deadly threat and per Texas PC §9.42, you also may not use deadly force to protect theft of a vehicle (section (3)(A) ).
So if the DA wants to prosecute, the victim is going away for years.

Even at night?

Although, in this case, they didn't take the car.

 

[Hoji]

Not a grey area. There was no deadly threat and per Texas PC §9.42, you also may not use deadly force to protect theft of a vehicle (section (3)(A) ).
So if the DA wants to prosecute, the victim is going away for years.

Depends on if the carjacker was armed or appeared to be armed.
Citizen has a right to recover his property and we do not know if the thief who previously carjacked the owner was armed or appeared to be armed.
Running away does not necessarily mean not a threat. Easy enough to point a gun behind you while running

 

[BBL]

Even at night?

Although, in this case, they didn't take the car.

Correct.
Night time does not automatically give you the powers to execute thieves. There is still the exclusion in section (3)(A) "he reasonably believes that the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means" which is legalese for "items that are identifiable (such as a license plate or a VIN) and can be returned to you after recovery". But IANAL.

 

[BBL]

Depends on if the carjacker was armed or appeared to be armed.
Citizen has a right to recover his property and we do not know if the thief who previously carjacked the owner was armed or appeared to be armed.
Running away does not necessarily mean not a threat. Easy enough to point a gun behind you while running

I don't disagree. But don't just shoot people in the back assuming they might be armed. If it turns out they weren't, you're in hot water (aka jail).

 

[MountainGirl]

Correct.
Night time does not automatically give you the powers to execute thieves. There is still the exclusion in section (3)(A) "he reasonably believes that the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means" which is legalese for "items that are identifiable (such as a license plate or a VIN) and can be returned to you after recovery". But IANAL.

IANAL - wha? You're Anal ?

Oh. I Am Not A Lawyer.

Meh. Same thing. Never mind.

 

[Hoji]

I don't disagree. But don't just shoot people in the back assuming they might be armed. If it turns out they weren't, you're in hot water (aka jail).

Nope. That is incorrect as well. Reasonable belief. Some shitbag that you just caught breaking into your vehicle says “ Bitch, I got sumptin’ fo yo ass” as he is walking away while reaching down the front of his pants, is a very good candidate for being shot.

An Austin jury thought so too.( not me but someone I know)

 

[Darkpriest667]

Correct.
Night time does not automatically give you the powers to execute thieves. There is still the exclusion in section (3)(A) "he reasonably believes that the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means" which is legalese for "items that are identifiable (such as a license plate or a VIN) and can be returned to you after recovery". But IANAL.

Are you an attorney?

 

[deemus]

Learned to drive on my grandpa's 56 Chevy PU when I was 6, starter on the floor. I couldn't reach the pedals, so he worked the clutch and I shifted the three on the tree. He then let me drive his 70 Chevy pickup when I was 10, also three on the tree.

All my kids learned to drive a standard too. It was fun for them in HS to make fun of guys who couldn't drive a standard.

 

[TXAZ]

Like others I learned to drive a stick in my first car. I paid $25 for 1961, 4 on the column, Mercedes 220, customized on all 4 sides by telephone poles scraping. To stop, you put it in reverse, rev-ed up the engine, then let out the clutch slowly.
Great memories!