Need another truck. Ford or Chevyl?

[alexrex20]

Hahaha, you ain't kidding! I have a '11 Duramax with 38k miles, and my Michelins are almost down to the tread wear indicators. I'm juggling the idea of a level kit to fit 35s, but then I don't want to have to replace 35s in another year. The 33s are expensive enough!

I'm looking at the new Cooper Discoverer ST Maxx. It seems to get good reviews (on 1/2tons at least), and they're pretty affordable.

 

[Stukaman]

Dont do a leveling kit youll look goofy towing anything, I'm on 20s truck came with them so tires for me are a minumum 1500 bucks.

 

[winchster]

. Your initial cost is higher, but you more than make up for it in fuel economy (especially while towing), reliability, and resale value. I would say the maintenance cost is not appreciably higher in a diesel truck.

Unless you're hauling all the time and driving a ton of miles, the math doesn't work out for ever making up the initial cost difference. Also, oil changes alone are considerably higher for diesel. Basically, unless you really need one for the towing capabilities, on a regular basis, diesels don't make sense. The V10 is the only worse choice than the diesel.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Dont do a leveling kit youll look goofy towing anything, I'm on 20s truck came with them so tires for me are a minumum 1500 bucks.

Rear tires for my car from Discount are $483.00 BEFORE they are pulled off the rack.....then add all the incidentals.
And getting more the 15k miles out of them is pushing it.

 

[alexrex20]

Unless you're hauling all the time and driving a ton of miles, the math doesn't work out for ever making up the initial cost difference. Also, oil changes alone are considerably higher for diesel. Basically, unless you really need one for the towing capabilities, on a regular basis, diesels don't make sense. The V10 is the only worse choice than the diesel.

Well your math is obviously different from mine.

My Duramax can get 22mpg if I keep it under 70mph. I'd like to see ANY 1/2ton gas truck do that. Even my friend's EcoBoost F150 can't get 22mpg.) I only paid $50k for my brand new '11 GMC 2500HD SLE Z71 4x4 CrewCab, which is cheaper than many of those 1/2ton trucks, especially the King Ranch/Platinum F150s, LTZ Silverados, Dodge Hemis, etc.

 

[alexrex20]

Rear tires for my car from Discount are $483.00 BEFORE they are pulled off the rack.....then add all the incidentals.
And getting more the 15k miles out of them is pushing it.

What do you have? A Vette or Viper, Porsche or Ferrari? The rear Michelins on my Vette are $455/ea, and yes, 15kmi on the rears is but a dream...

 

[ZX9RCAM]

What do you have? A Vette or Viper, Porsche or Ferrari? The rear Michelins on my Vette are $455/ea, and yes, 15kmi on the rears is but a dream...

Porsche.

 

[alexrex20]

Nice. I'm guessing a 911. GT3? Carrera S? Turbo? I remember you mentioned you used to get a lot of track time on your bike. Do you do track days in the Porsche? I've been to quite a few PCA track days.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

NA 996....

No track days, not gonna abuse it more than I already do, lol.

 

[40Arpent]

And getting more the 15k miles out of them is pushing it.

And whose damn fault is that?

 

[ZX9RCAM]

And whose damn fault is that?

Well, the suspension is designed with negative rear camber for cornering that eats up the inside of the tires.
I have some of mine dialed out, but the tires are also pretty soft, kinda like bike tires, ya give up tire life for
a little more traction, lol....

 

[alexrex20]

That, and you can't rotate them. Many of the high-end tires are specific to an exact corner of the car. They are directional and have an asymmetrical tread design. Good for the tire salesman, good for the handling and performance, but bad for the customers' wallets.

 

[alexrex20]

And whose damn fault is that?

I would say he drives like a grandpa if he gets 15k out of them. I have trouble getting 12k out of my rears, and my tires are known for their longevity.

ZX9RCAM

 

[40Arpent]

I would say he drives like a grandpa if he gets 15k out of them.

I've personally known Cam for roughly 10 years, and I can assure you he doesn't drive like a grandpa...far from it. I'm sure he extrapolated that 15k number based on "what if" scenarios....like what if I had stayed out of the pedal... LOL

 

[ZX9RCAM]

I don't do clutch dumps or "burnouts" with my Porsche, lol.....
I am sure you can't say the same with your vette.

And, they can't be rotated, you are correct.

 

[alexrex20]

I get plenty of track time so I tend to keep it pretty tame on the street, but I have been known to do a burnout or two...

I didn't get the address in the pic, but it was at "5200 North Freeway" - I did a rolling burnout at about 55mph.

 

[alexrex20]

I've personally known Cam for roughly 10 years, and I can assure you he doesn't drive like a grandpa...far from it. I'm sure he extrapolated that 15k number based on "what if" scenarios....like what if I had stayed out of the pedal... LOL

Haha I hear ya. When people ask me what mpg I get in the Vette, I tell them it CAN get 25mpg, but if it's driven like a Vette should be driven (or a Porsche in Cam's case), then it gets about 12-14mpg. On the track I can get it down to 5mpg.

BTW, Cam, do you ever go to the Coffee & Cars or Nifty Fifties car shows? I try to go to every C&C, and at least once a month make it to Nifty Fifties. I'm in a '12 Centennial Z06 in black, but usually end up parking in the spectator lot because I get there late. Plus, Vettes are dime a dozen anyway...

 

[40Arpent]

I get plenty of track time so I tend to keep it pretty tame on the street, but I have been known to do a burnout or two...

I didn't get the address in the pic, but it was at "5200 North Freeway" - I did a rolling burnout at about 55mph.

That is fricking awesome dude!!!!!!!!

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Haha I hear ya. When people ask me what mpg I get in the Vette, I tell them it CAN get 25mpg, but if it's driven like a Vette should be driven (or a Porsche in Cam's case), then it gets about 12-14mpg. On the track I can get it down to 5mpg.

BTW, Cam, do you ever go to the Coffee & Cars or Nifty Fifties car shows? I try to go to every C&C, and at least once a month make it to Nifty Fifties. I'm in a '12 Centennial Z06 in black, but usually end up parking in the spectator lot because I get there late. Plus, Vettes are dime a dozen anyway...

I usually average about 19-20mpg although it can get much better.

I don't get out & socialize too much, turned into a recluse in my older yrs., lol....

 

[ZX9RCAM]

That is fricking awesome dude!!!!!!!!

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