Purchasing with out of state ID

[vahtryn]

Well I've found out a terrible thing. Due to some DHS/ICE regulations regarding something which makes no sense to me I cannot have postal service due to the fact that I am not currently on a lease but rather a handshake deal for a sublease. I moved here without much money and had been of no fixed address in the appalachian mountains for awhile. I can't figure out a good way to establish my residency within the state under these circumstances as I also have no bills.

I have a valid North Carolina driver's license. I also have a valid US Passport (unfortunately with a california address on it). So I can prove who I am.

I'm wanting to buy a 10/22 take down if I see one at the next gun show here in Austin and probably a sub compact 9mm for every day carry. Fortunately with my NC license and CCW there's technically reciprocity, will have to look into how that works.

I know the easy answer is to get off the sublease. I'm currently saving and this rent is stupidly dirt cheap so that's a very big priority for me. I also really dislike living with others because they keep the place a mess, argue over dumb shit or just don't want a dog around. Perhaps later in the year I'll rent a house on my own and get out of this basic SRO.

Will there be any issues with me purchasing a rifle or pistol at a gun show under these circumstances?

 

[Koinonia]

You cannot legally purchase a firearm in Texas, without a Texas ID.

 

[vahtryn]

You cannot legally purchase a firearm in Texas, without a Texas ID.

So I'm pretty much still considered a damn transient in the world for some silly reason of not being able to provide proof of residency according to state laws. How does one provide this proof in a situation such as mine? Should I just renew my passport and have it sent to my sister out of state with my new address and have her fed ex it somewhere that I can obtain it? Or is a passport not considered valid either?

 

[Sam Colt]

Not sure which country you're a citizen of, but US passports don't include an address; you write it in using pencil.

 

[Byrd666]

My boo boo, misread the original question/statement.

How can you not get mail service at your address? I know guys that live in motels and hotels that mail service. Let alone that homeless guy I knew in Dallas that had his mail delivered to general delivery and did will call pick up.




An address on a passport is just that, an address on a passport. If you plan on staying in Texas for a while, it makes sense just to get an updated I.D. or D.L. anyway.

Taken from DPS website:

Any of the following documents will be accepted to verify an individual’s Texas residency. The two documents provided must be issued by different companies or agencies. For example, an individual may not use a water bill and an electricity bill from the same company.
NOTE: Remember, all documents presented must contain the individual’s name and Texas residential address.

• Current deed, mortgage, monthly mortgage statement, mortgage payment booklet or a residential rental/lease agreement
• Valid, unexpired Texas voter registration card
• Texas motor vehicle registration or title
• Texas boat registration or title
• Texas concealed handgun license
• Utility statement (including electric, water, natural gas, satellite TV, cable TV or noncellular phone bill) dated within 90 days of the date of application
• Selective Service card
• Medical or health card
• Current homeowner’s or renter’s insurance policy or homeowner’s or renter’s insurance statement
• Current automobile insurance policy or an automobile insurance statement
• Texas high school, college or university report card or transcript for the current school year
• W-2 or 1099 tax form from the current tax year
• Mail from financial institutions; including checking, savings, investment account and credit card statements dated within 90 days of the date of application
• Mail from a federal, state, county or city government agency dated within 90 days of the date of application
• Current automobile payment booklet
• Pre-printed paycheck or payment stub dated within 90 days of the date of application
• Current documents issued by the U.S. military indicating residence address
• Document from the Texas Department of Criminal Justice indicating the applicant's recent release or parole
• Current Form DS2019, I-20 or a document issued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services

These documents work for an ID or DL.

See below for identity documents link

TxDPS - Identification Requirements

 

[txinvestigator]

Well I've found out a terrible thing. Due to some DHS/ICE regulations regarding something which makes no sense to me I cannot have postal service due to the fact that I am not currently on a lease but rather a handshake deal for a sublease. I moved here without much money and had been of no fixed address in the appalachian mountains for awhile. I can't figure out a good way to establish my residency within the state under these circumstances as I also have no bills.

I have a valid North Carolina driver's license. I also have a valid US Passport (unfortunately with a california address on it). So I can prove who I am.

I'm wanting to buy a 10/22 take down if I see one at the next gun show here in Austin and probably a sub compact 9mm for every day carry. Fortunately with my NC license and CCW there's technically reciprocity, will have to look into how that works.

I know the easy answer is to get off the sublease. I'm currently saving and this rent is stupidly dirt cheap so that's a very big priority for me. I also really dislike living with others because they keep the place a mess, argue over dumb shit or just don't want a dog around. Perhaps later in the year I'll rent a house on my own and get out of this basic SRO.

Will there be any issues with me purchasing a rifle or pistol at a gun show under these circumstances?

What do you mean you cannot get postal service? I never needed to show the mailmain a lease or deed to get mail?

 

[vahtryn]

I've never come across this as well. Then again I've never lived in what's basically considered temporary student housing in Texas. Because I'm not on a lease they cannot deliver me mail due to some random silly regulation based on the way that this place is set up.

Regardless issue solved. Person that just moved into the "unit" decided to be a narc and told management I have a dog. I gotta get out of here in about a week. Should be a fun one.

 

[Renegade]

Well I've found out a terrible thing. Due to some DHS/ICE regulations regarding something which makes no sense to me I cannot have postal service due to the fact that I am not currently on a lease but rather a handshake deal for a sublease. I moved here without much money and had been of no fixed address in the appalachian mountains for awhile. I can't figure out a good way to establish my residency within the state under these circumstances as I also have no bills.

I have a valid North Carolina driver's license. I also have a valid US Passport (unfortunately with a california address on it). So I can prove who I am.

I'm wanting to buy a 10/22 take down if I see one at the next gun show here in Austin and probably a sub compact 9mm for every day carry. Fortunately with my NC license and CCW there's technically reciprocity, will have to look into how that works.

I know the easy answer is to get off the sublease. I'm currently saving and this rent is stupidly dirt cheap so that's a very big priority for me. I also really dislike living with others because they keep the place a mess, argue over dumb shit or just don't want a dog around. Perhaps later in the year I'll rent a house on my own and get out of this basic SRO.

Will there be any issues with me purchasing a rifle or pistol at a gun show under these circumstances?

1) Passports do not have address.
2) You can buy a rifle in Texas with a NC/DL from an FFL.
3) You can get mail just by sending it to a valid address. Name is irrelevant.

 

[Renegade]

You cannot legally purchase a firearm in Texas, without a Texas ID.

This is incorrect.

 

[Younggun]

I've never come across this as well. Then again I've never lived in what's basically considered temporary student housing in Texas. Because I'm not on a lease they cannot deliver me mail due to some random silly regulation based on the way that this place is set up.

Regardless issue solved. Person that just moved into the "unit" decided to be a narc and told management I have a dog. I gotta get out of here in about a week. Should be a fun one.

So you were upset about your roommates not wanting you to have a dog that was not allowed to be there, and now they are a narc because they made it a point to let someone know so they wouldn't be on the hook for damage your dog that shouldn't have been there might have done?


Sounds legit.......

 

[Sam Colt]

On the bright side, homeless guys with dogs get a lot of sympathy.

 

[Koinonia]

This is incorrect.

Okay. Unless he can prove residency in Texas.


EDIT: I just realized he was talking about a rifle. My bad!

 

[vahtryn]

So you were upset about your roommates not wanting you to have a dog that was not allowed to be there, and now they are a narc because they made it a point to let someone know so they wouldn't be on the hook for damage your dog that shouldn't have been there might have done?


Sounds legit.......

I'm upset that someone moved in after me and is a dog hater and now have to pay an extra grand a month over one little thing that would not bother him. I'm respectful enough to keep my dog in my room and not in the common areas except when taking her outside.

That's really the core of the issue. People always wanting everything to go their way without willing to make a compromise with another person. I compromised by keeping my dog in a bedroom rather than letting her roam around the entire place like I normally would. I've also compromised by smoking out doors rather than indoors. I'm also the only person that does dishes because every time I go to cook someone's used my damn cast iron and left it filthy so that means I have to heat it up and then scrub it clean ruining my damn seasoning. So at least once a week I have to re-season my frying pan.

Then there's the fact that one of the people here broke my cutting board and I just took it in stride as well what are the odds of getting a liberal to stand up for themselves? So I don't bother wasting my time.

My favorite knife to use in the kitchen was missing for three weeks because somebody locked it in their room. That was a fun one.

I have my own trash can in my room and take out my own trash. I don't use the one in the kitchen. If I don't carry the trash out from the kitchen at least once a week the damn thing smells like hell. Nobody other than me sweeps the common areas.

So yes, I think me having a dog is not that big of a compromise for another person to have. Of course it's always about number one. Thank you John Nash for **** your buddy.

 

[Whisky]

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after reading your rants, vahtryn, I'm of the opinion that background checks for mental stability prior to purchasing a firearm is a pretty good idea.....

 

[vahtryn]

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after reading your rants, vahtryn, I'm of the opinion that background checks for mental stability prior to purchasing a firearm is a pretty good idea.....

Well that's always interesting and the general consensus for those that don't understand an anarchist person of "live and let live" 100% alone. I try to not be a complete and total douche bag. I try to follow as many laws as I can remember but as our legal code from local to federal level is more pages than anyone can possibly remember and even interpret I'm pretty sure I, like everyone else, breaks laws on a daily basis without the knowledge of doing so.

I also have a top secret clearance with our federal government. I used to work with the FBI to hunt down child pornographers and put those rings under and in jail. I have been recently cleared for a class two stamp. My only arrest is for invoking my right to remain silent and refusing to speak with a police officer without a lawyer present so they threw me in jail until a lawyer could be provided.

Do I believe in the way our government is run? In my heart no. I truly believe there are far too many regulations that benefit the select few and not the body public. Do I believe in socialism? Absolutely not. What do I believe in? Not being a damn douche bag and working problems out between people. If that makes me seem absolutely crazy to most people, well that's really not my problem. I'll accept you for who you are no matter what.

Because of how I accept people I have friends that fit all sorts of molds. From people just starting to take hormones for changing their gender to Catholics that think all birth control and sex is bad unless you're married. I have friends that fit all sorts of races, creeds and random differences in society. People that travel around constantly not wanting to be tied down. People that have over five children in their families. It really doesn't matter to me.

So when something as trivial as a dog inside a place ruins your rainy day parade when you move in after someone causes you to head up the food chain to some form of authority I have to question the true morality of that person. A simple five minute conversation could have resolved any issue that person or I might have had and then a compromise could have been reached. Instead in this current situation I'm being forced out of where I live while trying to save money and buy a farm. Rather than have a conversation, which would have also been a confrontation, a person chose the easy way out according to vast amounts of rules that I personally as an anarchist find absolutely silly.

Finally being an anarchist does not mean that I want people running around in the streets causing all sorts of chaos. Anarchy in it's truest form is realizing that the average person is a good person. We will band together in order to help. We just don't need a governing body to tell us how to do that.

 

[Koinonia]

How does that long reply have anything to do with Mental Health in Background Checks?

Whisky: Mental Health is already a part of background checks. Health providers do not always submit the papers to the state for review on a background check, but they are already a part.

My opinion, you agreed to live someplace where obviously they did not want dogs. You brought a dog. A new resident arrived, saw you had a dog, and told the person letting you stay there. Owner tells you to leave.

Are you saying your agreement with the owner was invalid because the person who complained was new there, and agreements you agree to have no legal standing with you? Im confused.

 

[vahtryn]

How does that long reply have anything to do with Mental Health in Background Checks?

Whisky: Mental Health is already a part of background checks. Health providers do not always submit the papers to the state for review on a background check, but they are already a part.

My opinion, you agreed to live someplace where obviously they did not want dogs. You brought a dog. A new resident arrived, saw you had a dog, and told the person letting you stay there. Owner tells you to leave.

Are you saying your agreement with the owner was invalid because the person who complained was new there, and agreements you agree to have no legal standing with you? Im confused.

Long response was into the assumption that I need to go through more back ground checks than I have already gone through in my life time. I've probably gone through more than any average person would ever go through. Considering that I always pass with flying colors I get annoyed because my life style is viewed as crazy therefore I must be absolutely insane and not allowed rights.

With that stated. I'll just concede. Fine someone that I never met before moved in *months* after me and used new rules that I did not sign up for against me. I got game theoried. Pushed out. Rather than having to deal with problems with other people I'll just remember that everyone will use some form of force in the form of authority to make their lives more comfortable.

My main issue is that I find the route this entire thing went down to be absolutely wrong. Why don't people just talk over something they may have find unsettling no matter how little it is and come up with compromise? I've made my issues with the people here clear as day and yet as I stated my cast iron is always in disuse and needing to be re-seasoned. Rather than go to the authority here regarding this I just tell them to clean the damn pan after using it every time I see them.

Am I gonna go home and cry to my mother because I have to spend a little extra time being perfectly comfortable or that I have to spend two hours a week seasoning a pan? Absolutely not. I man up and deal with my problems and move forward.

 

[Whisky]

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Whisky: Mental Health is already a part of background checks. Health providers do not always submit the papers to the state for review on a background check, but they are already a part..

yes, I know - what I meant is that this fellow could be the poster child for the reason for having that check..

 

[Southpaw]

nevermind

 

[STXdevilsquid]

Can't you get a P.O. box? I would think living in a shared living arrangement that would be best.