Reflex sight questions
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Don't trust a sight you hav eto "shake" awake. Because the one time you need it to save your life the SOB isn't going to work. I just use always ons.. change the battery once a year whether they need it or not and live my life.
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Ok- here comes the thread hijack…
I’m a 1911 guy and feel I need to drag myself into the 21st century regarding the freaking RDS. I get why I should embrace this technology. The range trip today sure proved I can still plug a man sized target all day long and fast at 25 yards. But if I can be better I should accept that and strive for it. I really don’t want another thing but guess it’s for the best. So - I’m just now thinking about this seriously and haven’t done any DuckDuckGo-ing on the options. Guess a Commander size is my preference even though I typically carry a 5” today. 1911’s in 45AARP (apologies to Toddnjoyce) are what I will consider. I’d appreciate the teams recommendations for RDS capable Commander size 1911s. I’ll carry it almost every day. Don’t care about weight.
I’m a 1911 guy and feel I need to drag myself into the 21st century regarding the freaking RDS. I get why I should embrace this technology. The range trip today sure proved I can still plug a man sized target all day long and fast at 25 yards. But if I can be better I should accept that and strive for it. I really don’t want another thing but guess it’s for the best. So - I’m just now thinking about this seriously and haven’t done any DuckDuckGo-ing on the options. Guess a Commander size is my preference even though I typically carry a 5” today. 1911’s in 45AARP (apologies to Toddnjoyce) are what I will consider. I’d appreciate the teams recommendations for RDS capable Commander size 1911s. I’ll carry it almost every day. Don’t care about weight.
Wilson, Ed Brown, Nighthawk, STI, Kimber, have off the shelf optics ready 1911s. Dan Wesson will mill the slide for you in their custom shop.
sergeant69
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Plus one for the 1911s. carried a commander on duty for years. tucked it into my boot when i was in court. even fell out one time when i was on the stand. was a oh shit moment. these days weight matters on a bad back so i carry a shield in 45acp.
Since Toddnjoyce guilted me into getting off my a$% and actually doing some research, I came across this interesting review.
https://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2019/08/optics-ready-1911-pistols/
I'm just not in a position to lay out the kind of $ required for "higher-end" solutions. I see that Novak cut adaptor options are readily available. I don't like losing the rear sight entirely but think it's the path I'll follow.
https://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2019/08/optics-ready-1911-pistols/
I'm just not in a position to lay out the kind of $ required for "higher-end" solutions. I see that Novak cut adaptor options are readily available. I don't like losing the rear sight entirely but think it's the path I'll follow.
Kimber doesn’t take away the rear sight for their optics include Aegis line. But Kimber is a love or hate relationship. The range I usually go to had one on the rental line for a while.
Aegis Elite Pro (OI)
The Aegis Elite Pro (OI) comes equipped with a milled Vortex Optics Venom, 6MOA red dot for fast sight acquisition and green, black and grey G10 grips.
In addition to what Todd stated, look into the Bul Armory lineup. I either read or heard something about some of their offerings were to be optic cut slides, similar to the SASII models. Though, at the moment, I'm unable to independently verify this.
And back to O. P., I purchased a Crimson Trace RAD model for my M&P. Haven't been able to mount it or work with it yet due to other, more pressing matters, but when it is up and going, I'm hoping to be able to give a more informed opinion.
And back to O. P., I purchased a Crimson Trace RAD model for my M&P. Haven't been able to mount it or work with it yet due to other, more pressing matters, but when it is up and going, I'm hoping to be able to give a more informed opinion.
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An excuse to get a new gun is always nice, but you can have the slide of any of your existing pistols you trust milled to accept the RDS for a lot less than a new high quality optic ready 1911 will run you. For that matter - you can buy an optics ready slide for less than a whole new gun will cost, so you don't have to deface a gun you already love.
ED BROWN 1911 GOVERNMENT SLIDE 45ACP SS WITH RMR CUT | Brownells
This Ed Brown 1911 Government Model Slide comes with the unique feature of being pre-cut for Trijicon RMR Mounts with Integrated Sights ...
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There's an Ed Brown RMR ready slide,
1911 RMR MOUNT W/ NIGHT SIGHTS GREEN FRONT & GREEN REAR : TRIJICON 1911 RMR MOUNT WITH INTEGRATED NIGHT SIGHTS | Brownells
1911 RMR MOUNT W/ NIGHT SIGHTS GREEN FRONT & GREEN REAR Trijicon RMR mount with integrated night sights allow lower 1/3 co-witness of ...
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Mounting plate (with integral rear sight) and front sight combo for the Ed Brown slide
ED BROWN 1911 DROP-IN MATCH BARRELS | Brownells
CNC machined with slightly oversized dimensions for tighter barrel lockup and a “Match Quality”, drop-in fit. Premium stainless steel bar stock is ...
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Add an Ed Brown barrel w/ bushing
WILSON COMBAT 1911 PROOF® STAINLESS STEEL EXTRACTOR | Brownells
Super-tough extractor milled from bar stock to maintain proper tension, properly extract shells, and withstand constant shock and abrasion. Fully machined to maintain ...
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Ed Brown extractor
ED BROWN FIRING PIN SPRING FOR 1911 | Brownells
High-quality parts for building the ultimate custom 1911 Auto for target, hunting, and tactical applications. All parts are carefully inspected and tested to ...
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Ed Brown firing pin return spring
ED BROWN 1911 FIRING PIN | Brownells
High-quality firing pins that are specifically sized to reduce the chances of primer flow. Proper weight for positive ignition with heavy-duty springs. ...
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Ed Brown firing pin
ED BROWN 1911 FIRING PIN STOP | Brownells
Won't peen out or lose shape because it's machined from heat-treated, alloy steel for long-wearing performance. Made to maximum factory spec to provide ...
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Ed Brown firing pin stop
1911 Commander Recoil Parts | Handgun Parts at Brownells
Brownells is your source for 1911 Commander Recoil Parts,Handgun Parts at Brownells parts and accessories. Shop our vast selection and save!
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Recoil spring, plug, and guides (I went with Wolff spring, Ed Brown guide & plug)
I don't think I left out any parts - pre-tax/shipping total is $854.41, or $924.89 after tax.
Then you throw on a Trijicon RMR or the Holosun 507C / 508T - whichever you like and trust - and you're good to go.
Ed Brown 1911 Handguns
Learn about current 1911 models, including the Special Forces, Kobra Carry, FX2 and EVO Series and find inspiration for a custom build
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Ed Brown's optic-ready "factory" .45 Commander lenght 1911's start at $4K depending on options
Of course you can probably get a cheaper optic ready gun - but the Staccato guns are likewise pricey, and looking around their site, I didn't even see a .45 option anymore - they're full bore in the 9mm double stack 2011 game it would seem.
The other solution - embrace the suck - get a polymer striker gun that comes optics ready.
The M&P in .45 has 1911 grip angle, has the manual safety option that mimics the 1911 operation (which means less learning curve) comes in optic ready versions that already include suppressor heigh back up sights that don't go away when you add an optic. You'll gain 2 rounds in the mag over a typical single stack 1911 with a gun that weighs less. You can get the M&P + a Holosun optic for about what you'd pay for that Ed Brown slide I pieced out above.
The M&P in .45 has 1911 grip angle, has the manual safety option that mimics the 1911 operation (which means less learning curve) comes in optic ready versions that already include suppressor heigh back up sights that don't go away when you add an optic. You'll gain 2 rounds in the mag over a typical single stack 1911 with a gun that weighs less. You can get the M&P + a Holosun optic for about what you'd pay for that Ed Brown slide I pieced out above.
I’d likely just do a slide swap myself, but he needs another gun. I heard him say it. And there’s some other OR 1911s out there, but I don’t talk Springfield as a matter of principal, even if they put out some interesting products.
You know what to do with that whore mouth of yours.
M&P M2.0 | Smith & Wesson
Their gun builder on the website doesn't allow configuring optic ready 45's other than this configuration for some reason (though selecting 10mm lets you build a non-comp'd normal gun that's optic ready, which is the same frame as the 45 so its probably a website error)
$802 MSRP - street price should be less at this point. Even at MSRP, its a whole damn performance center gun, for less than the Ed Brown slide assembly.
Or if you want slim & trim
M&P Shield M2.0 | Smith & Wesson
The Shield 2.0 performance center 4 inch gets you a 7+1 capacity gun a lot smaller than a 4 inch 1911. My only bitch is the optic footprint is going to be limiting - the best compact MRDS is the Holosun 507K - it outperforms / out features every other sight in its size class, the Trijicon RMRcc may be a bit more rugged, but thats about it. I don't know if the footprint of that optic cut shield would direct mount the 507K, or if you'd have to run an adapter.
If its a range toy...
Turkish (bleh) Girsan makes an optic ready 1911 that'll run you about $700 with tax and transfer. I'd probably throw their trash sight it comes with away and put a better sight on it.
Turkish (bleh) Girsan makes an optic ready 1911 that'll run you about $700 with tax and transfer. I'd probably throw their trash sight it comes with away and put a better sight on it.
Those sure do look a heck of a lot better. My eyes are getting weaker and feel a RDS would allow more precision. I’m having to be dragged down that road though.
sergeant69
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we all were
AND…I have to buy new leather. Grrrr.
