The coming Civil War in America

[kyletxria1911a1]

My oath before GOD

 

[jrbfishn]

That would be something to stand for.

from an idgit coffeeholic

 

[Pilgrim]

You guys are beginning to worry me with all this talk. If, God forbid, this comes to pass has anyone thought of starting a TGT preparedness network for groups in each community? Seems like strength and security in numbers between members of this forum would be a prudent thing to start talking about...

 

[vmax]

You guys are beginning to worry me with all this talk. If, God forbid, this comes to pass has anyone thought of starting a TGT preparedness network for groups in each community? Seems like strength and security in numbers between members of this forum would be a prudent thing to start talking about...

most serious preppers already have networks established. When it starts OPSEC rules so I wouldn't want to be posting what I'm doing online, so it would have to be covert to work

 

[Chirpy]

Typewriters and the post office rule, just like Germany now. Postal Inspectors Willard sure no one reads your mail.

 

[Pilgrim]

most serious preppers already have networks established. When it starts OPSEC rules so I wouldn't want to be posting what I'm doing online, so it would have to be covert to work

Hmmm... might be a good topic of discussion next time people meet at the range?

 

[PhulesAu]

Loose lips, Sink Ships. I've never had a tin foil hat, but having dealt with "Gov't" types I'll just say No emails No Written messages and No phone calls. Face to face in a noisy place is best, but no guarantee. Just Sayin'.

 

[Younggun]

Yellow chicken-blue hen, the fox is on the move.

 

[Ole Cowboy]

Got to agree. It may start as a race war, but will quickly become an us vs government war. The middle classes of multiple races against the takers, both rich and poor.
I thimk there are elitists that are planning socialist type utopia where they rule and all is bliss. But I don't think they are going to get what they think they will. Either way, sooner or later, it is coming. Big question are, when and how violent it will get.
No matter what happens, this country will not be the same U.S. of A. that we knew.
The only hope I see is if enough people of all races wake up and see that they are being used. I see a lot of young blacks and hispanics that are dis-illusioned by the democats. But will it be enough fast eough to make a difference? People realizing that altough there are racists out there, most people of all races really just don't give a damn about color if you are honest and work. Despite the racist bullshit from both sides. Personally, I don't hold out much hope. Can't figure if I would rather go before it happens, or be around to try to protect my kids.
The whole thing is sad, but I am not going to let it run my life.

from an idgit coffeeholic

Spot on, you clearly saw my point!

It MUST start as a race war, if not there is no war. If anyone thinks that these riots that have appeared across the entire country are spontaneous attacks coming out of Ferguson they are in dream land. This has been well organized. Obama has been working hard on dividing the country and he is succeeding. He desperately needs the division in order to flip the US from a free country with rule of law, a strong Constitution and a large middle class into his utopia of socialism and its workers paradise.

There are two way to take over a country: Externally thru the machines of war and internally thru its own system with covert operators. We are seeing the latter taking place before I very eyes. Obama has transitioned from covert actions to overt actions. Its easy to see the ONLY viable approach is to get an internal war going on. For that they need soldiers and a lot of them. That is the job of the minorities, the extreme left wing whites, the Unions and finally the DHS. Obama wrote an EO dtd 18 Mar 2012, "National Defense Resources Preparedness" that enables him to accomplish the mission w/out calling on the military. In many countries its the military that flips the country, here we have a far too conservative military to allow that to be done using them. So the end run is to create an Army, (minorities and unions), fund them ($1 TRILLION in benefits every year, favored status of unions) then create and foster a divide between us (the white majority) and them and nothing is better than race to do it with and he has the black leaders on board (Black Congressional Caucus, Sharpton, Black Panthers and its many leaders).

We are not on our way we are engaged in the war now.

If the minorities do not come to realize they are nothing but pawns and stand to gain NOTHING and understand that their idols are only false demigods then you can expect things to get worse before they get better.

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

We need to come together to keep the peace. "They" need us to fight.

If we ALL really did just agree to work together and voluntarily do the right thing we could pretty much fix everything. Peace and mutual respect do work. Sorry if my Hippy is showing.

I really hope people change their hearts. I pray for it every single day. I don't think violence is a foregone conclusion.

But... if it came down to it I have no doubt that God has my back and my soul is ready for whatever His will is. Do others have that comfort?

 

[dustycorgill]

We need to come together to keep the peace. "They" need us to fight.

If we ALL really did just agree to work together and voluntarily do the right thing we could pretty much fix everything. Peace and mutual respect do work. Sorry if my Hippy is showing.

I really hope people change their hearts. I pray for it every single day. I don't think violence is a foregone conclusion.

But... if it came down to it I have no doubt that God has my back and my soul is ready for whatever His will is. Do others have that comfort?

Absolutely brother. Agreed!

 

[vmax]

Yellow chicken-blue hen, the fox is on the move.

John has a long mustache.. the chair is against the wall...

 

[jrbfishn]

My beard is long,,,,,,I ain't shaving.


Sent by a idjit coffeeholic

 

[Younggun]

Only those with strong beards will survive.

 

[jrbfishn]

Lmao, I like that.


Sent by a idjit coffeeholic

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

I guess I'll die then. I can't grow hair to save my life. Probably too much native in me.

It's hell trying to see if a knife shaves when your forearms are bare as a baby's butt.

 

[Pilgrim]

I guess I'll die then. I can't grow hair to save my life. Probably too much native in me.

It's hell trying to see if a knife shaves when your forearms are bare as a baby's butt.

I feel your pain brother. All I can grow is some semblance of a fu-manchu...

 

[Davetex]

We need to come together to keep the peace. "They" need us to fight.

If we ALL really did just agree to work together and voluntarily do the right thing we could pretty much fix everything. Peace and mutual respect do work. Sorry if my Hippy is showing.

I really hope people change their hearts. I pray for it every single day. I don't think violence is a foregone conclusion.

But... if it came down to it I have no doubt that God has my back and my soul is ready for whatever His will is. Do others have that comfort?

Very well spoken. I've come to the same conclusion.

I've also thought about this internal war. I think in some places/states/cities it will be a race war, or something along those lines. In other places I think it will be more capitolist vs communist. For instance, in Texas I would expect to see the latter. I say this because I know many folks that would be classified as minority. All of them are pretty much aligned with the opinions posted here.

Now in the northeast or west coast I would expect to see more of a racial conflict. The end game is the same with both groups though. The communists are getting more aggressive all the time. Look at all the commie agitators in Furguson and other places. The race angle won't work here (on a large scale) so they will just go full on commie, anti capitolist.

 

[SIG_Fiend]

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I have a LOT of thoughts on this subject. Some of them I don't post online, as I tend to be a bit pessimistic sometimes. I think there are some harsh truths that are definitely not for public consumption, as in the vein of Hagakure, I think in many ways society has grown far too soft to hear or comprehend certain truths. Anyways, I'm going to try and get straight to the point on some of my more mainstream thoughts on the subject:

• I do think there is something to the concept of referring to all of these things as being a sort of "war", though probably not in the sense that a lot of people are thinking of. Call it psychological warfare or whatever. I sometimes refer to it as a genocide against logic.

• This "war" will only be won in two areas, and mark my words on this:
  • Parenting
  • Education

• This has been a generational "war", and will take multiple generations to effect much of any significant change

• People refer to all of this as a "war", and IMO, I think many people possibly have a not so accurate outlook on how they think things are. I talk to a lot of people that seem to have this outlook of more traditional concepts of war, such as with our first Civil War. Just my opinion but, I think people are fooling themselves if they think anything like that will ever happen again in the US. There is far too much apathy, and society has evolved too much to revert to anything of that nature, IMO. It's far more likely that things will only ever be a never-ending series of "isolated incidents".

• I think it's important to keep in mind, most people just simply do what they feel is either right, comfortable, or otherwise agreeable to them. I can guarantee you, the vast majority of people out there that you may see as your "opponents", are just simply doing and saying what they think is right. Those things may be based on a lack of education, or educated people that have fallen for misinformation, or even a combination of the two plus people that simply weren't raised well enough to be truly independent and free-thinking people. I would say a fairly significant percentage probably feel that they are just doing and saying what they feel is right, based on their perception of their personal experiences and the education they may think they have on a subject, no matter how ill-informed they might be. I think it's important to point that out, when people start thinking generally about "us vs them". That's too simplistic. Think about how divisive that is, and how it could potentially almost ensure that a higher degree of people on the other side are significantly less likely to ever even consider the things you might tell them. Here's some person that means well, thinks they believe the right things that are for the good of society, ultimately having been misinformed in the past, or maybe just weren't raised in such a manner that they truly think and learn for themselves....and here comes some other guy telling the first dude that he's practically an enemy combatant. In a lot, if not most cases, that's nothing but counterproductive. I mean, in that context, I think it's easy to understand how people on either side can see the other as its mortal enemy.

• Just keep that in mind when talking to people of opposing beliefs. You might simply be talking to someone that is a well-educated, free-thinker, but that has simply been misinformed with some flawed statistics, and who can actually be educated on the facts and potentially even change their opinions. It could also be someone that maybe wasn't raised all that well, maybe doesn't have the same level of maturity, decision-making skills, or ability to self-educate, so maybe you might need to change the way you approach them. They might even be well-meaning, but simply lacking in some areas of personal development, to the point where they've developed bad habits and bad ways of coping with things. So they might say or suggest harsh things, but maybe simply because it is the only way they've learned to deal with certain types of things, and they might not even literally mean those things. (kind of like how kids say they "hate" each other sometimes) It still doesn't necessarily make them some sinister arch-nemesis, actively plotting the destruction of your civil rights.

• Let me reiterate, the "war" will be fought in parenting and education

 

[kyletxria1911a1]

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I have a LOT of thoughts on this subject. Some of them I don't post online, as I tend to be a bit pessimistic sometimes. I think there are some harsh truths that are definitely not for public consumption, as in the vein of Hagakure, I think in many ways society has grown far too soft to hear or comprehend certain truths. Anyways, I'm going to try and get straight to the point on some of my more mainstream thoughts on the subject:

• I do think there is something to the concept of referring to all of these things as being a sort of "war", though probably not in the sense that a lot of people are thinking of. Call it psychological warfare or whatever. I sometimes refer to it as a genocide against logic.

• This "war" will only be won in two areas, and mark my words on this:
  • Parenting
  • Education

• This has been a generational "war", and will take multiple generations to effect much of any significant change

• People refer to all of this as a "war", and IMO, I think many people possibly have a not so accurate outlook on how they think things are. I talk to a lot of people that seem to have this outlook of more traditional concepts of war, such as with our first Civil War. Just my opinion but, I think people are fooling themselves if they think anything like that will ever happen again in the US. There is far too much apathy, and society has evolved too much to revert to anything of that nature, IMO. It's far more likely that things will only ever be a never-ending series of "isolated incidents".

• I think it's important to keep in mind, most people just simply do what they feel is either right, comfortable, or otherwise agreeable to them. I can guarantee you, the vast majority of people out there that you may see as your "opponents", are just simply doing and saying what they think is right. Those things may be based on a lack of education, or educated people that have fallen for misinformation, or even a combination of the two plus people that simply weren't raised well enough to be truly independent and free-thinking people. I would say a fairly significant percentage probably feel that they are just doing and saying what they feel is right, based on their perception of their personal experiences and the education they may think they have on a subject, no matter how ill-informed they might be. I think it's important to point that out, when people start thinking generally about "us vs them". That's too simplistic. Think about how divisive that is, and how it could potentially almost ensure that a higher degree of people on the other side are significantly less likely to ever even consider the things you might tell them. Here's some person that means well, thinks they believe the right things that are for the good of society, ultimately having been misinformed in the past, or maybe just weren't raised in such a manner that they truly think and learn for themselves....and here comes some other guy telling the first dude that he's practically an enemy combatant. In a lot, if not most cases, that's nothing but counterproductive. I mean, in that context, I think it's easy to understand how people on either side can see the other as its mortal enemy.

• Just keep that in mind when talking to people of opposing beliefs. You might simply be talking to someone that is a well-educated, free-thinker, but that has simply been misinformed with some flawed statistics, and who can actually be educated on the facts and potentially even change their opinions. It could also be someone that maybe wasn't raised all that well, maybe doesn't have the same level of maturity, decision-making skills, or ability to self-educate, so maybe you might need to change the way you approach them. They might even be well-meaning, but simply lacking in some areas of personal development, to the point where they've developed bad habits and bad ways of coping with things. So they might say or suggest harsh things, but maybe simply because it is the only way they've learned to deal with certain types of things, and they might not even literally mean those things. (kind of like how kids say they "hate" each other sometimes) It still doesn't necessarily make them some sinister arch-nemesis, actively plotting the destruction of your civil rights.

• Let me reiterate, the "war" will be fought in parenting and education

Goal point