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  • The Lox

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    Here is a huffpost link I came accross from the Gretawire on Twitter.

    http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-gop-primary

    Does he have enough to win the nomination? I agree with some of the things he says, and I do like his no nonsense approach. Just not sure he could win the office even if he won the nomination.

    I also see that Scott Walker declared his candidacy today. Interesting to say the least.

    For comparison here is the dem pollster too. Pretty sad story over there if you ask me, no competition means no need to listen to the people..

    http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-democratic-primary
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    The Lox

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    Bernie sanders as an independent.

    Do you remember the last prominent independent we had? He had more money than he new what to do with and got no respect. I don't think Bernie could compete without a super pac if he does not win the nomination. I do think he has a chance to beat HC if the media gets behind him. He will destroy her in debates all day.
     

    Vaquero

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    Trump is a bigger narcissist than o.
    I may agree with him on some issues, but damn!
     

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    Jeb Bush has already been chosen for you. No need to watch b.s. polls.

    I would agree, his money, family name, the press will back him and then tear him to shreds when he goes against Hillary.

    America has had enough Bush folk and Clintons, time for a change.
     

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    I in no way want to see Trump as president, or even the GOP nominee, but it does say a lot about the Grand Old Party that it takes a goober like the Donald to start calling out actual​ issues in America.
     

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    Could it be that both Sanders and Trump are shill's for Clinton. Sanders is to far left with stuff like free college tuition for everybody. Trump is known to support Clinton in the past even donating to her Senate campaign.
     

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    Do you remember the last prominent independent we had? He had more money than he new what to do with and got no respect. I don't think Bernie could compete without a super pac if he does not win the nomination. I do think he has a chance to beat HC if the media gets behind him. He will destroy her in debates all day.

    I don't think Sanders can beat HC for the nomination. He might win a state or two. But his candidacy is toxic for HC because he personifies the enthusiasm gap. The progressive/socialist element of the Dem party doesn't love Obama. They don't want to elect just any Dem in 2016. They want to elect the "right" Dem in 2016. Sanders is closer to being that "right" Dem than HC. If those people stay home on Nov 8, HC loses. Enough Republicans/conservatives will hold their nose and vote for anybody just so HC doesn't win.
     

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    I don't think Sanders can beat HC for the nomination. He might win a state or two. But his candidacy is toxic for HC because he personifies the enthusiasm gap. The progressive/socialist element of the Dem party doesn't love Obama. They don't want to elect just any Dem in 2016. They want to elect the "right" Dem in 2016. Sanders is closer to being that "right" Dem than HC. If those people stay home on Nov 8, HC loses. Enough Republicans/conservatives will hold their nose and vote for anybody just so HC doesn't win.

    That is an interesting outlook.
     

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    I would rather have Trump than Bush. I'd say I'd rather have Rand, Cruz or even Rick, but I'd honestly rather not have a president than Bush, Trump, HC, any democrat, or 85-90% of people who aren't libertarians.

    This 2 party shit is an epic-left-leaning fail and needs to be torched immediately. I'd rather our children read about the dangers of political parties and how they used to exist to help dumb voters.
     

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    Being a narcissist is a prerequisite for running for office.

    Just look at those who we elected in the past, and they still don't have the balls to represent those who voted for them.

    As for Trump -- He is a mega-narcissist with big balls of fire! He'll get 'er done.

    He is no politico. He's got no ties to the donor class.

    He can fund his own campaign.

    Trump might be the best thing for the USA after Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama drove us into trillions of dollars of debt.

    I'm getting too old for this shit, so my vote goes to the rough and tumble, turn the tables on the entrenched ruling class.

    Trump has my vote. Because all the others are just a different shade of gray.

    Be well.
     

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    I in no way want to see Trump as president, or even the GOP nominee, but it does say a lot about the Grand Old Party that it takes a goober like the Donald to start calling out actual​ issues in America.

    And it says something about how uncompelling the other candidates are (including Hillary) that his candidacy even exists. If there were a candidate that was getting attention for some actual ideas for the future of this country, Trump wouldn't even bother. He'd still throw the occasional bomb, but he wouldn't run.
     

    Vaquero

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    HC gave a speech. She admittedly wants to raise taxes. And further the handouts.

    I'll quit my fucking job if she's elected.
     

    Glockster69

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    I don't have a problem with anything Carly Fiorina has said and I've not heard of any skeletons either.
     
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