Grip angle is all-important to me when choosing a handgun because I've trained to be a quick-draw point-shooter my whole life. My XD points exactly like my 1911s did and do - Glocks do not. I don't even use the sights on my XD or 1911s within 50 ft when shooting cans, steel, and pie plates. I only use my sights when I need to make a deliberately super-accurate or long-range shot. When I tried point shooting with two different Glocks, I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. Even a few degrees makes all the difference in the world.
How dare you argue with his "facts!"
Seriously, it's pure opinion despite what he claims. The XD/XDM is one of the most popular polymer semi-auto handguns around and many of its advocates are former Glock lovers who have seen the light and prefer the more naturally-shooting 1911-style grip.
These so-called "facts" are the same rhetoric I've seen on numerous Glock forums, and these fanboys cannot accept the fact that many prefer the Springfield over the Glock.
I was a huge fan of Glocks, even carried one when I could in Bosnia (it was a vast improvement over the Beretta M9 I was issued); but the truth is when I first shot an XD back in 2006 I quickly realized it was a much better design and I could shoot quicker and more accurately than with the Austrian pistol it was based on.
I also realize it's not everyone's cup of tea, but to try to convince me that the Glock is a superior design just makes me laugh, especially when someone claims that's a "fact." Well, it's not, it's an opinion and couched as such I can accept it; but to claim it that it is supported by indisputable evidence just makes me smile and roll my eyes....
...I quickly realized it was a much better design... ...
...but to try to convince me that the Glock is a superior design...it's an opinion
My glock shoots way better that my xd9 ever did.
So, is the first statement a fact, or merely your opinion?
My glock shoots way better that my xd9 ever did. My opinion. I'm not a "fan boy" just a person who owns both and have compared them side by side. My glock has never broke. Xd has.
Dude...was it the one I sold you?
"Character is doing the right thing even when no one is watching"
Yes, which is why I said I realized it was a much better design.
Unlike others, I know the difference between "opinion" and "fact"...
This is pretty much all you had to say...
If a person can't shoot a Glock or feels the grip angle prevents them from shooting as well as they could, it is because that person cannot shoot. Doesn't mean people have to like the Glock, as I completely understand they have the ergonomics of a 2x4. That being said, a good shooter can pick up any gun and shoot it well, whether they like it or not. Also, at no point did I state Glocks are a "superior" platform. Actually, if people read back through my posts carefully, you'd see that my implication was simply that the two platforms are different. There's certainly no perfect platform out there, and each have their idiosyncrasies, which is all I was pointing out about the XD. The Glock has plenty of it's own, such as:
-Grip arch causing the gun hand to eventually slip around farther into "over grip"
-2x4 ergonomics
-The trigger components result in a "hitch" during and after breaking the shot, making it very easy to throw shots
-The serrated trigger can be damn irritating for a lot of people (smooth triggers are available from the factory)
-Sometimes the mags don't drop free
-Ejection pattern is erratic and due to the design of the gun and components, extraction function is very weak. Many 9mm Glocks are on the ragged edge of properly extracting/ejecting, which most people don't realize.
-Finger grooves are sized such that they don't fit for a lot of hand sizes
-You can get "Glock knuckle" due to the shape of the trigger guard, depending on your grip method
I'm not a Glock fanboy, so you are mistaken. They happen to be a very utilitarian and modular gun, which I happen to like. My main focus is shooting, and ultimately I could care less about the gun. Give me an XD or XD-M, I'll shoot it. Give me a beat to crap surplus TT-33 Tokarev, I'll shoot it. Give me a H&K VP70 with it's God awful 20lb trigger pull, I will shoot it....until my trigger finger wears out. LOL My ego is not invested in ANY platform, however, clearly yours is. Feel free to continue trying to marginalize my posts based on inaccurate generalizations, but the fact remains, none of the points I've made have been directly addressed or refuted.
BTW, you made a claim above that the XD was a "better" platform than Glocks. What are your facts to support that claim?
Hate the trigger on wife's shield.S&W M&P with its lousy trigger FTW!
Hate the trigger on wife's shield.