HB 195 filed: Open carry of handguns

[winchster]

If anyone has been misleading on this thread it's Winchester.

Yea right. Lol. Pot, meet kettle.

It's difficult to see the forest from the trees sometimes. Here are the facts:

Oregon
Open carry of firearms is legal, but for those who do not have a concealed handgun license, cities and counties may regulate the open carry of loaded firearms in public places. Localities that prohibit non-licensed open carry of loaded firearms in public places include: Astoria, Beaverton, Independence, Newport, Oregon City, Portland, Salem, Tigard, and Multnomah County. Firearm carry is prohibited by ORS 166.250, however this law does not apply to Concealed Handgun Permit holders (see ORS 166.260.)

Texas
Long gun, and black powder weapon (including handgun) open carry is not forbidden by law, unless it is done in a manner "calculated to cause alarm." Open carry of a handgun is prohibited with some exceptions (hunting and/or on one's own property).

So yeah, the laws are not the same after all between the two states. Let's confer to the aforementioned map:

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The map tells us that Oregon allows Open Carry and Texas prohibits Open Carry. How is this misleading?

It's the same argument.

Oregon: It's legal except when......
Texas: It's not legal except when......

In both cases, the ability to OC is nowhere near as absolute as the map maker implies.

You see it the way you want, as do I. Neither of us is going to change their mind about how we view the information and I have inadvertently succeeded in completely derailing this thread.

The topic of this thread is a bill that would bring unlicensed public OC to Texas. I'm all for it, but this bill is doa this session.

 

[BRD@66]

TXI jr.?

Grover Dill

 

[winchster]

Grover Dill

Now that's funny.

 

[BIGPAPIGREG]

group hug....

 

[breakingcontact]

group hug....

Greg will do it. Hug it out boys.

Step on the clutch. Change gears. It is March! Should get the Senate vote on SB 11 and 17 this month!

 

[Se7en62]

Wohoo! I'm hoping they surprise us all and pass with flying colors. I think the main resistance WOULD have come from that anti-austerity liberal moron Mike Martinez had he been elected.

 

[BIGPAPIGREG]

Greg will do it. Hug it out boys.

Step on the clutch. Change gears. It is March! Should get the Senate vote on SB 11 and 17 this month!

I'm a hugger, what can I say....

 

[breakingcontact]

Wohoo! I'm hoping they surprise us all and pass with flying colors. I think the main resistance WOULD have come from that anti-austerity liberal moron Mike Martinez had he been elected.

In the Senate anyways, they know it is going to pass. So look for 1000 attempts for restrictive amendments.

 

[Davetex]

In the Senate anyways, they know it is going to pass. So look for 1000 attempts for restrictive amendments.

Hey BC, thanks for doing such a good job keeping up with the leg this session. It's made it very easy for me to follow.

 

[BIGPAPIGREG]

Hey BC, thanks for doing such a good job keeping up with the leg this session. It's made it very easy for me to follow.

2nd that Bigun....it's a big help

 

[Vaquero]

Hey BC, thanks for doing such a good job keeping up with the leg this session. It's made it very easy for me to follow.

Yep.
BC keeps me up to speed.
Lots of others helping too.

 

[breakingcontact]

For sure guys. I eat up politics. It'd be nice if we could merge some of these threads or have some more structure to them but im sure we will make due as always. Another huge push is Dan Patrick looking to drop property taxes by around 4-6 billion. I know some folks love to bag on the GOP here but this isnt business as usual like Dewhurst and Straus were doing. Patrick is gunning to unseat Straus. It will really heat up on the house side.

 

[Davetex]

 

[breakingcontact]

BC United!

 

[TheDan]

Another huge push is Dan Patrick looking to drop property taxes by around 4-6 billion.

How much total to they take now?

 

[breakingcontact]

How much total to they take now?

between 4 billion and infinity. Good question.

 

[AustinN4]

BC United!

Sounds like an English football team.

 

[breakingcontact]

2010 number was first one I could easily find. $40 Billion

 

[Younggun]

I fear that the property tax reduction would be offset by increased taxes in other areas.

 

[Thegomezclan]

I fear that the property tax reduction would be offset by increased taxes in other areas.

Yup, government is same whether its the feds or state. Once they have our money they don't want to give it up.