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  • satx78247

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    Younggun,

    MAYBE. - At least in those days we had a SCOTUS that was willing to slap-down the UNCONSTITUTIONAL things that "Dishonest Abe" did.

    IF we had a majority of HONEST judges on the high court now, "obamacare" would have been struck down.

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    Younggun,

    MAYBE. - At least in those days we had a SCOTUS that was willing to slap-down the UNCONSTITUTIONAL things that "Dishonest Abe" did.

    IF we had a majority of HONEST judges on the high court now, "obamacare" would have been struck down.

    yours, satx

    Pretty sure he jailed the SCOTUS judge who spoke out against him.



    I may need to double check though.

    Edit: I just looked it up. He issued a presidential warrant for the arrest of Chief Justice Haney but the plan fell through and the arrest wasn't made.

    Many others weren't so lucky. SCOTUS ruled against the suspension of Habeas Corpus but it continued. Anyone who spoke out against it was likely to be arrested as well.
     
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    Younggun,

    While Lincoln did lots of things that were against the law, that one I haven't heard of. - A source that I can go read would be "nice".

    Btw, did you know that the US Congress passed a binding resolution that sanctioned the torture, denial of food/shelter/medical care & even cold-bloodied murder of helpless CSA Prisoners of War in "the especial care of" the army?

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    Younggun,

    While Lincoln did lots of things that were against the law, that one I haven't heard of. - A source that I can go read would be "nice".

    Btw, did you know that the US Congress passed a binding resolution that sanctioned the torture, denial of food/shelter/medical care & even cold-bloodied murder of helpless CSA Prisoners of War in "the especial care of" the army?

    yours, satx

    The sources for Taney's predicament vary. Dems write it off as fiction (he's a great hero after all), other sources as possible, and some as pure fact. You have to look at sources and decide for yourself.

    Taney Arrest Warrant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Lincoln’s 'Great Crime': The Arrest Warrant for the Chief Justice

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2004/01...roger-b-taney-a-great-crime-or-a-fabrication/

    On disregarding court rulings


    Ex parte Merryman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    President Lincoln suspends the writ of habeas corpus during the Civil War - May 25, 1861 - HISTORY.com
     

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    This is exactly what I was referring to yesterday, you talk as if the current president invented the idea of a president taking liberties with the powers of the office. I was pointing out that he is just one in a long running tradition of piss poor politicians. Bush II oversaw a similar expansion of the powers of his office with broad bipartisan support with the passage of laws such as the Patriot Act and others in a time period that rang the death knell for what little freedom and liberties we had left in this country. It's all been a dog and pony show ever since. He is the one that set the most recent precedents for what Obama is doing today. You are giving the current president far too much credit if you think he has any new ideas about how to get his way.

    And it doesn't matter who wins next year, if you think the next president is going to give up a single ounce of power his predecessors have taken for the office.

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    I hope all of the weasels who bought out every box they could in order to sell on GB for twice the price lose their shirts. If you bought in order to insure you had something to shoot, good for you. If you spent your last dime in hopes of price gouging others I hope you starve.
     

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    Mexican_Hippie,

    Fyi, FDR was NOT as DISHONORABLE as BHO demonstrably is, if only because he was facing a SCOTUS that "reined in" his blatantly UNCONSTITUTIONAL acts like the "NRA".

    Btw, to my knowledge there is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits adding more members to the court. = In point of fact, 'ole Tom Jefferson wanted 13 justices, on the theory that 13 heads were likely better than 9.

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    Mexican_Hippie,

    Fyi, FDR was NOT as DISHONORABLE as BHO demonstrably is, if only because he was facing a SCOTUS that "reined in" his blatantly UNCONSTITUTIONAL acts like the "NRA".

    Btw, to my knowledge there is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits adding more members to the court. = In point of fact, 'ole Tom Jefferson wanted 13 justices, on the theory that 13 heads were likely better than 9.

    yours, satx

    The way the Constitution is written, anything not mentioned falls to the states and the people. If the power wasn't granted to add members, the power does not exist.
     

    satx78247

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    Younggun,

    Is it then your position that there was to be ONLY a Chief Justice on the SCOTUS??? = I'll save you some time looking as there is NO mention of the number of Justices on the Supreme Court. = NOT 3, 5, 7, 9, 13, 15, 17, 19, 21 or any other number.

    IF tomorrow the Congress decided to appoint 100 more Justices to the court, they could so Constitutionally if the POTUS signed the bill into law.

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    Mexican_Hippie,

    Fyi, FDR was NOT as DISHONORABLE as BHO demonstrably is, if only because he was facing a SCOTUS that "reined in" his blatantly UNCONSTITUTIONAL acts like the "NRA".

    Btw, to my knowledge there is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits adding more members to the court. = In point of fact, 'ole Tom Jefferson wanted 13 justices, on the theory that 13 heads were likely better than 9.

    yours, satx

    Just so no one gets confused, NRA = National Recovery Act not the National Rifle Association.

    FDR is the one that implemented Socialism in America.
     

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    Mexican_Hippie,

    You are EXACTLY CORRECT. = The unlamented National Recovery Act, which was championed by socialists, communists, Christian Democrats in the 1930s & the so-called "progressive scholars" of the far left, even now, was a BAD PLAN.

    yours, satx
     
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    AMMO BAN - Its not over . . . Or . . .Did the BATFE just pull a fast one on us? YES THEY DID!
    Sure . . they backed down on the ammo ban.
    But what they didn't tell us is that the United States Supreme court just ruled that agencies such as the BATFE do not have to submit rule changes to public comment. They can just change the rules when and where they want to!
    ... So yes, BATFE has "shelved" the ammo ban for now.

    But they have merely set it back to wait for the public furor to die down and for the attention of Congress to wander elsewhere!

    Then, they will make the rule changes without notice.

    This includes the reclassification and ban of ammo and even ATF-41P.

    Please continue to submit your comments on the ammo ban for the next 4 days.

    Please write your Congress Critters and ask them to change the law and require rule making agencies to submit rule changes to public comment.

    This is the only way to fix the supreme court's decision.
     
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