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  • easy rider

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    I need more clarification on exactly how the National Anthem is racist and anti black. Racism never enters my mind when I hear the Star Spangled Banner.

    In fact, if I remember rightly, Francis Scott Key was against slavery and it's institution. He did at a time buy slaves and then set them free.
     

    pronstar

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    We should all go around referring to folks as "colored people" and report-back with the results


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    Kar98

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    I need more clarification on exactly how the National Anthem is racist and anti black. Racism never enters my mind when I hear the Star Spangled Banner.

    In fact, if I remember rightly, Francis Scott Key was against slavery and it's institution. He did at a time buy slaves and then set them free.

    I could see where the lines:

    O’er the land of the free

    No refuge could save the hireling and slave

    and when freemen shall stand

    might be objectionable to some.

    Not that I agree with the notion, but I can see where it might come from.
     

    easy rider

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    I could see where the lines:

    O’er the land of the free

    No refuge could save the hireling and slave

    and when freemen shall stand

    might be objectionable to some.

    Not that I agree with the notion, but I can see where it might come from.
    First of all, I can't remember ever hearing the full song being sung, let alone at a football game.
    Secondly, it was made in a time when those were very real things. The entire song didn't really say derogatory comments in an anti black or racist way. There was slavery then and shouldn't be taken out of context of the times.

    When will people be happy? Should we just erase any history of slavery and say it never happened?

    Edit: BTW not all slaves in U.S. history were black.
     

    GeorgeandSugar

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    Slavery was a fact of life throughout the world. It took time to eradicate. The Founders struggled with this. They wanted to eliminate it. The fear was if they pursued this course, the southern colonies might have walked away and there would likely be no USA. The condition of slavery was tabled. Kicking the can down the road resulted in the Civil War. The point that everyone should be focusing is slavery was on the minds of many and it was indeed abolished. These folks prefer to focus on the minutiae and overlook the larger picture.


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    Slavery IS a fact of life throughout the world. It took time to eradicate. The Founders struggled with this. They wanted to eliminate it. The fear was if they pursued this course, the southern colonies might have walked away and there would likely be no USA. The condition of slavery was tabled. Kicking the can down the road resulted in the Civil War. The point that everyone should be focusing is slavery was on the minds of many and it was indeed abolished. These folks prefer to focus on the minutiae and overlook the larger picture.


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    It just isn't as prevalent today as before. But throughout central Africa and many places in middle east and Asia, it is still in effect. pretty much all the sex trade is slave trading.

    I know a good historian who says the lines about "hireling and slave" referred to people on the British side of things, not the US. Even so, this whole mess about measuring the people of 200 years ago by today's standards is downright stupid. It disavows any form of evolution in our culture. Try measuring Cro-Magnon or Neanderthals by today's standards if you want to do that. Just as valid.

    What is really happening is these people want to diminish anything and everything the founders, FS Key, Lincoln, R.E. Lee, and such ever did. By diminishing them, then you diminish their work. If you diminish it all enough, then you have the moral road to redo it all. So out goes the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, Federalist Papers; all the magnificent creation of this country becomes just one more thing to redo to their desires.
     

    Younggun

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    The biggest mistake anyone could make inneother of those stories is to apologize in an attempt to appease those fools.

    Hobby Lobby should not make any comments on the issue. Flat ignore it because any comment will only encourage more idiocy.

    The professor apologized. He admitted he did wrong when he had not. They will start making demands now.
     

    GeorgeandSugar

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    Lock her up for her own safety. She should be banned from Hobby Lobby to protect her from herself.


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