Alcohol in your system while carrying

[Charlie]

Too much hiding in your safe place it seems.

Well, it is pretty safe around here! I believe I'll stay!

 

[Rup]

In my class (2-3 yrs ago) it was stated “no alcohol” in your system. That’s what I go by. If I want to have a drink I lock up my weapon in the trunk. It’s easy.

 

[RobertTheTexan]

Texas Penal Code §46.035 states that it is unlawful for an individual who is intoxicated to carry a handgun. It is important to note that the Penal Code defines “intoxicated” as not having the normal use of mental or physical faculties by reason of the introduction of alcohol, a controlled substance, a drug, a dangerous drug, a combination of two or more of those substances, or any other substance in the body; or having an alcohol concentration of .08 or more.

Source: https://www.dps.texas.gov/RSD/LTC/faqs/index.htm
Here are the corresponding laws...

Texas Penal Code §46.035:
(d) A license holder commits an offense if, while intoxicated, the license holder carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed.

Texas Government Code §411.171:
(4)(6) "Intoxicated" has the meaning assigned by Section 49.01, Penal Code.

Texas Penal Code §49.01:
(2) "Intoxicated" means:
(A) not having the normal use of mental or physical faculties by reason of the introduction of alcohol, a controlled substance, a drug, a dangerous drug, a combination of two or more of those substances, or any other substance into the body; or (B) having an alcohol concentration of 0.08 or more.

And this is why we think you are "The Man". Well at least I do. Thanks for bringing ground truth. Too much barracks lawyerin' these days.

 

[RobertTheTexan]

In my class (2-3 yrs ago) it was stated “no alcohol” in your system. That’s what I go by. If I want to have a drink I lock up my weapon in the trunk. It’s easy.

I'm not a big drinker, meaning I don't get drunk, so not much to worry about. Those times I might have a beer or a glass of vino or two, I don't disarm - but I also know that I do not go past my limits.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

I'm not a big drinker, meaning I don't get drunk, so not much to worry about. Those times I might have a beer or a glass of vino or two, I don't disarm - but I also know that I do not go past my limits.

The problem with that, I would think, is you don't get to choose your limit.

 

[Partock]

Personally, I follow the PPP.
Posterior
Protection
Protocal

If i'm out, I don't drink. I try to keep it simple and since I almost always go out with the wife, I let her do the drinking. I'm already paranoid and don't need the drink to think about too.

 

[OldCurlyWolf]

so that basically says If the cop thinks you are intoxicated it don't matter what your % is he can haul you in and let the courts decide.

He can also arrest you for Public Intoxication without anything in your system and doesn't have to let you take a breathalyzer or blood test to prove you don't have anything in your system. Don't get mouthy in the street. Do it later with a formal complaint. Preferably one where you have recorded everything.

 

[RobertTheTexan]

The problem with that, I would think, is you don't get to choose your limit.

Not sure I agree with that. I absolutely have a limit. Two. Two beers or two glasses of vino. Don't drink hard liquor anymore. Last year I had 3 beers. I think I'm GTG.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Not sure I agree with that. I absolutely have a limit. Two. Two beers or two glasses of vino. Don't drink hard liquor anymore. Last year I had 3 beers. I think I'm GTG.

I was meaning, you don't get to decide what makes you "under" an officers limit.
They get to decide, regardless of how much you actually drank.

 

[TheDan]

Can somebody clarify how alcohol and guns “mix”

Kinda like pool or any other skill. A couple drinks helps you get into a flow state improving accuracy and reaction time, but it's a fine line.

 

[easy rider]

Kinda like pool or any other skill. A couple drinks helps you get into a flow state improving accuracy and reaction time, but it's a fine line.

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a funny cartoon, but I believe only alcoholics call that fact.

 

[Vaquero]

Ben has more info on that.
I wouldn't have thought so either.
But....

 

[Younggun]

Yep.

 

[easy rider]

First off, alcohol affects individuals differently, so to say a certain percentage would be beneficial depends on the person.

 

[Vaquero]

First off, alcohol affects individuals differently, so to say a certain percentage would be beneficial depends on the person.

Agreed.

 

[BRD@66]

Ben has more info on that.
I wouldn't have thought so either.
But....

Wait. What? You wouldn't have thought that Ben would have more info on that?

 

[Younggun]

First off, alcohol affects individuals differently, so to say a certain percentage would be beneficial depends on the person.

In general, a certain amount of alcohol in your system can improve certain function.

Ben has a much better explanation of the effect and it's really not all that hard to believe. It's certainly not "drink a 6 pack and become Superman" effect. Not even close.

 

[Vaquero]

Wait. What? You wouldn't have thought that Ben would have more info on that?

Poor choice of words on my part.
Touche

 

[easy rider]

Although I will admit that alcohol can stimulate (calm) your nerves. There are many techniques other than alcohol or drugs that can do the same. If a person gets to the point where they believe that can only happen with a few drinks, that's the first stages of alcoholism.

 

[Younggun]

Although I will admit that alcohol can stimulate (calm) your nerves. There are many techniques other than alcohol or drugs that can do the same. If a person gets to the point where they believe that can only happen with a few drinks, that's the first stages of alcoholism.

I think you are reading way more in to this than what has been stated.