What restaurant incident are you referring to? I'm just not hearing or reading of those incidents, but I'm sure someone lifting their shirt will probably get attention too. As I said, you can carry however you like and make whatever scenarios you like.Baseless supposition? Hardly. Every scenario in my mind is possible. Or maybe you don't frequent some of the places I do.
In regards to people being shot, then having their gun taken, there are almost no incidents. There are however many incidents of people taking OC guns from the owner and NOT shooting them. So I guess if you want to split hairs, there's that. You can argue situational awareness all day, but I can assure you those people felt they had their scene under control.
The situation that makes me not OC is where a guy comes into a restaurant or other venue and intends to rob it. He sees an OC and shoots him first before robbing it. No way to know how many times that has happened.
I posted a list of some, take a look.
Two about open carrying without a retention holster.
Five examples in a country of over 325.7 million citizens where almost every state allows open carry (only five don't), to you that qualifies as "many?!?"
If we'd stayed on topic, this thread would've withered & died 120 comments ago. It's all Fritz' fault for trolling us.
Having happened five(?)* times is not the same as being able to state that "it happens". It's more accurate to say "it has happened a few times". But hey, that's just me. It's not like there's a groundswell of these takeaways happening.OK, take away "many." But it does happen, regardless of the frequency.
And I knew the "it happens but....." would be thrown out there. It happens, regardless of how or why. That's what matters to me. I'm old, fat and slow. Its entirely possible I have poor situational awareness. So its possible I would be one of those "it happens but....."
Like someone said earlier, you have to manage the risks that are important to you.
Pretty much!Someone has to or you all would have moved on to porn sites by now
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Thanks to full30.com, we already have.Someone has to or you all would have moved on to porn sites by now
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The cop argument has zero to do with Joe OC.
Lots of people have attacked cops and tried to take their gun. But its not relevant to our discussion. I'm talking about average Joe who just happens to have a gun on his hip.
OK, take away "many." But it does happen, regardless of the frequency.
And I knew the "it happens but....." would be thrown out there. It happens, regardless of how or why. That's what matters to me. I'm old, fat and slow. Its entirely possible I have poor situational awareness. So its possible I would be one of those "it happens but....."
Like someone said earlier, you have to manage the risks that are important to you.
Your life must be a living hell worrying about all the things that "could" happen. You can't be cowering in fear in the basement because there "could" be radon in there. You can't go outside because you "could" be hit by lightning, or be stung by a killer bee, or attacked by rabid ducks. You can't drive because you "could" be involved in an accident.
Damn man, how the hell do you get through the day?
Don’t you carry a gun for what “could” happen? Damn man, how do you get through the day?
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A Desert eagle huh?I carry a gun to make up for my tiny penis.
Your life must be a living hell worrying about all the things that "could" happen. You can't be cowering in fear in the basement because there "could" be radon in there. You can't go outside because you "could" be hit by lightning, or be stung by a killer bee, or attacked by rabid ducks. You can't drive because you "could" be involved in an accident.
Damn man, how the hell do you get through the day?
Who in the HELL "just happens to have a gun on his hip" ? No one, that's who!
You should never assume that others are not properly prepared. leVieux
I'm just an old, fat, non-threatening, unassuming guy who likes pie.