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  • Guyger Verduict


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    Dad_Roman

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    Heheh....sorry, left work, hadda drive home.

    I would say just vote whatcha think.

    If I was on the jury, I already dont think its murder, thats a not guilty, and it would piss me off that the state didnt charge her correctly so that a FO and die.

    Its a disasterous mess that really has never been seen before. I think the ranger said it, criminally negligent homicide, I can see that.

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    Renegade

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    I am watching ARFCOM too. After today, it seems most flipped to guilty, including some cops who always defend cops. They were disgusted with her testimony.
     

    Renegade

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    If I was on the jury, I already dont think its murder, thats a not guilty, and it would piss me off that the state didnt charge her correctly so that a FO and die.

    It was the correct charge. She admitted on the stand she intended to kill him.

    Texas does not have a charge for mistake shootings. Mistake shootings fall under Mistake of Fact as TXI has explained.

    The judge should give written instructions to the jury on this.
     

    avvidclif

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    I found Ranger Armstrong to be an odd bird, insisting she did no wrong. None, Nada, Zilch. It seemed to me he was literally trying to sabotage the case. We now find out Armstrong rana Stop sign and killed a man in a traffic accident a few years ago while driving twice the speed limit in a state owned vehicle. So he is in the take no responsibility for your action and blame others camp.

    eta

    Meant to put this in the other thread. I was sexting the wife after long day at same time so not my fault. Fortunately my unarmed dog did not advance toward me.

    How about keeping all the trial s&*^ in one place.
     

    Dad_Roman

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    It was the correct charge. She admitted on the stand she intended to kill him.
    Man, are you ever right about that. That Prosecutor got her rattled and started throwing "Jean" into everything and she messed up BIG time with yes answers.

    He asked "so you intended to kill Jean?" and she said "yes". That was INCORRECT. She didnt even know Jean, how could she intend to kill him? The answer was "no"

    She did that several times on questions that involved Jean's name.

    Bad move.

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    Renegade

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    He asked "so you intended to kill Jean?" and she said "yes". That was INCORRECT. She didnt even know Jean, how could she intend to kill him? The answer was "no"

    Huh? you think all those convicted of murder knew their victims? I am going to guess many do not.

    The answer most officers are trained to use is "Shoot to stop the threat".
     
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    Kar98

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    Man, are you ever right about that. That Prosecutor got her rattled and started throwing "Jean" into everything and she messed up BIG time with yes answers.

    He asked "so you intended to kill Jean?" and she said "yes". That was INCORRECT. She didnt even know Jean, how could she intend to kill him? The answer was "no"

    She did that several times on questions that involved Jean's name.

    Bad move.

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    Assuming the prosecutor wants to trick her into admitting she knew Jean, as he was putting the D to her, and she killed him to prevent her partner (sexting and police-ing) from finding out. At least that's my ass-umption.
     

    ZX9RCAM

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    I believe she said that yes, she intended to kill the person inside her apartment.
    Then she said his name later on.
     

    Dad_Roman

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    Assuming the prosecutor wants to trick her into admitting she knew Jean, as he was putting the D to her, and she killed him to prevent her partner (sexting and police-ing) from finding out. At least that's my ass-umption.
    Ive wondered this from the beginning but I think we would know by now if there was a past history.

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    Kar98

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    Ive wondered this from the beginning but I think we would know by now if there was a past history.

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    F350-6

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    Got two questions before I vote. Is the jury allowed to convict her of a lesser charge? I've been to jury duty several times but never been selected.

    Second, what exactly was she charged with? I've got a basic idea, but haven't seen the actual charge.

    And the questions are kind of sad since it sounds like I'm looking at technicalities. The bottom line is, she entered into an individual's apartment and killed him when he shouldn't have been killed.

    But the case doesn't seem to be about that. It seems to be about if extenuating circumstances or technicalities should be considered instead.
     

    Younggun

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    I vote guilty.


    If other circumstances are involved then give minimum jail time, maybe a light “you’re not evil, just a complete moron” sentence. But she walked in to someone’s apartment and murdered a man in his own home. Stupid hurts. Just ask her victim.


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    diesel1959

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    Got two questions before I vote. Is the jury allowed to convict her of a lesser charge? I've been to jury duty several times but never been selected.

    Second, what exactly was she charged with? I've got a basic idea, but haven't seen the actual charge.

    And the questions are kind of sad since it sounds like I'm looking at technicalities. The bottom line is, she entered into an individual's apartment and killed him when he shouldn't have been killed.

    But the case doesn't seem to be about that. It seems to be about if extenuating circumstances or technicalities should be considered instead.
    If the Prosecution charges with the top count and all lesser-included offenses, and they survive a Motion for Directed Verdict(s), and the Judge charges the Jury as such, then the Jury is able to convict or acquit on the top charge, and convict on any of the possibly several other lesser charges, or fail to convict on any of them.
     

    benenglish

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    How about keeping all the trial s&*^ in one place.
    That would be nice. This is just a poll thread and, as such, it stands alone. However, it would be nice if discussion of the minutiae stayed in the other thread.
     

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    I find it interesting that the judge has been so interested in her texts (and the deleted ones) that they are allowed into testimony. She was off duty, her mental state is allowed to be where ever she wants it! Or are we supposed to not allow 'sluts' in the DPD? Definitely trying to kick a downed dog. That is the real problem with the case. No change of venue, no delay allowed, selecting evidence to be shown to the jury. The LE that shot the car lot guy (when he began his attack) was fired IIRC for not following policy of waiting for backup - but his partner was on the scene. So just wait for swat to come and have a gun battle in an apartment? Too many possible scenarios to afternoon quarterback! Which is what the prosecutor is doing. We want the Fl boss to never get another LE job as his training program caused kids to be killed, yet the same training and rules apply here? Oh, double tap is standard practice.
     
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