Oh this is good. Dallas PD cop kills man

[easy rider]

I figured about 10 years for manslaughter, wasn't too sure about murder, but did think it would have been more.

 

[Dad_Roman]

Soooo...Dallasites....is there a shitshow goin on?

 

[Vaquero]

I'm just real glad I wasn't on that jury.
Probably wasn't a pleasant task.

Thanks to all of them for their service.

 

[satx78247]

To All,

Presuming that what WOAI has reported is TRUTHFUL, I'm DISGUSTED with the prosecutor, jury, grand jury, judge & everyone else who were involved in prosecution of this case for MURDER.

A conviction for MURDER REQUIRES a SPECIFIC CRIMINAL INTENT to KILL a particular person(s). = At MOST she should have been convicted of NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE & been sentenced to no more than a year in the county jail OR have received probation, as she had NO SPECIFIC INTENT but instead acted with NEGLIGENCE to the consequences of her actions.
(Good thing for the Dallas DA that I wasn't on the jury, as I would have voted Not Guilty to MURDER & likely also to MANSLAUGHTER & would have "HUNG the jury", at worst, IF I couldn't have convinced the other 11 jurors about SPECIFIC INTENT.)

just my opinions, satx

 

[Bithabus]

To All,

Presuming that what WOAI has reported is TRUTHFUL, I'm DISGUSTED with the prosecutor, jury, grand jury, judge & everyone else who were involved in prosecution of this case for MURDER.

A conviction for MURDER REQUIRES a SPECIFIC CRIMINAL INTENT to KILL a particular person(s). = At MOST she should have been convicted of NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE & been sentenced to no more than a year in the county jail OR have received probation, as she had NO SPECIFIC INTENT but instead acted with NEGLIGENCE to the consequences of her actions.
(Good thing for the Dallas DA that I wasn't on the jury, as I would have voted Not Guilty to MURDER & likely also to MANSLAUGHTER & would have "HUNG the jury", at worst, IF I couldn't have convinced the other 11 jurors about SPECIFIC INTENT.)

just my opinions, satx

She testified that she intended to kill him

 

[Renegade]

To All,

Presuming that what WOAI has reported is TRUTHFUL, I'm DISGUSTED with the prosecutor, jury, grand jury, judge & everyone else who were involved in prosecution of this case for MURDER.

A conviction for MURDER REQUIRES a SPECIFIC CRIMINAL INTENT to KILL a particular person(s). = At MOST she should have been convicted of NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE & been sentenced to no more than a year in the county jail OR have received probation, as she had NO SPECIFIC INTENT but instead acted with NEGLIGENCE to the consequences of her actions.
(Good thing for the Dallas DA that I wasn't on the jury, as I would have voted Not Guilty to MURDER & likely also to manslaughter & would have "HUNG the jury", at worst, IF I couldn't have the convinced the other 11 jurors about SPECIFIC INTENT.)

just my opinions, satx

Sorry your girl lost.

Guess you missed the part where she took the stand and and admitted she intended to kill him. The gun did not just "go off".

That + the text of the law = murder:

Sec. 19.02. MURDER.
...
(b) A person commits an offense if he:
(1) intentionally or knowingly causes the death of an individual;

She literally testified her way into a murder conviction. Folks on another forum think her lawyers should get 10 years....

 

[satx78247]

Bithabus; Renegade,

You both are about HALF RIGHT. = She didn't even know who she was shooting & believed that he was an intruder & INTENDED to shoot/kill the person that she believed to be a burglar..
(SORRY, but this case is a GROSS miscarriage of justice & likely will not stand up on appeal. = Look for the TX Court of Criminal Appeals to dismiss this case.)

Are either of you an attorney or an experienced LEO?

yours, satx

 

[Kar98]

Lessons of the day:

1. When bringing your groceries in from the car, lock the door behind you, even if there are still bags in the car. You never know when there may be a tired police officer walking by.
2. When at home make sure all your lights are on in your house 24/7. You never know when a tired police officer is walking by.
3. When in your home make sure you're wearing body armor. You never know when a tired police officer is walking by....ready to protect and serve.

Don't ever pass between a window and a light source.

 

[easy rider]

For being played as white against black, not sure about the murder part, but I think it could have gone a lot worse for her.

 

[OFFascist]

The victim's brother is a better person than most.



Personally I think serving a 10 year sentence would be appropriate, she will probably end up serving less than that though.

 

[Kar98]

To All,

Presuming that what WOAI has reported is TRUTHFUL, I'm DISGUSTED with the prosecutor, jury, grand jury, judge & everyone else who were involved in prosecution of this case for MURDER.

A conviction for MURDER REQUIRES a SPECIFIC CRIMINAL INTENT to KILL a particular person(s).

No it doesn't. And with that, the rest of your post is moot.

 

[V-Tach]

I believe she will be eligible for parole after serving 5 years........she was/is not eligible for probation....

https://txparolelaw.com/eligible-for-parole-in-texas/

If I am misreading it, someone here will surely correct me.......

 

[Renegade]

I believe she will be eligible for parole after serving 5 years........she was/is not eligible for probation....

https://txparolelaw.com/eligible-for-parole-in-texas/

If I am misreading it, someone here will surely correct me.......

I looked at the statute and only Capital Murder said no parole. I think the news outlets are reading the law wrong.

 

[satx78247]

No it doesn't. And with that, the rest of your post is moot.

Kar98,


"No it doesn't" what?? - Pardon me for pointing out that your post is so unclear as to be meaningless & thus of ZERO worth to this discussion.

Did you know that the victim's own brother testified that he did NOT believe that she was guilty & requested that she serve NO jail time at all??
Then he asked the judge to hug his brother's killer & with the judge's consent, HE DID.

yours, satx

 

[Bithabus]

Bithabus; Renegade,

You both are about HALF RIGHT. = She didn't even know who she was shooting & believed that he was an intruder & INTENDED to shoot/kill the person that she believed to be a burglar..
(SORRY, but this case is a GROSS miscarriage of justice & likely will not stand up on appeal. = Look for the TX Court of Criminal Appeals to dismiss this case.)

Are either of you an attorney or an experienced LEO?

yours, satx

Intentionally killing an intruder is still murder. However, it could be considered justified. You're talking nonsense.

 

[Bithabus]

I looked at the statute and only Capital Murder said no parole. I think the news outlets are reading the law wrong.

That is correct. She is eligible after 5 years

 

[satx78247]

Bithabus,

WRONG ANSWER. = Read up on what constitutes MURDER. - It requires a SPECIFIC CRIMINAL INTENT to COMMIT A FELONY.
(Texas has only THREE "general intent crimes": INTOXICATION MANSLAUGHTER, DWI & DUID.)

Are you an attorney or an experienced LEO??
(Hide & watch: The conviction/sentence will be overturned on appeal.)

yours, satx

 

[Bithabus]

Bithabus,

WRONG ANSWER. = Read up on what constitutes MURDER. - It requires a SPECIFIC CRIMINAL INTENT to COMMIT A FELONY.
(Texas has only THREE "general intent crimes": INTOXICATION MANSLAUGHTER, DWI & DUID.)

Are you an attorney or an experienced LEO??

yours, satx

With all due respect, I can tell by what you are typing that you don't know what you are talking about.

 

[Kar98]

Kar98,


"No it doesn't" what?? - Pardon me for pointing out that your post is so unclear as to be meaningless & thus of ZERO worth to this discussion.

Friend-o, trying to talk high falutin' is unbecoming to you.

You said:

A conviction for MURDER REQUIRES a SPECIFIC CRIMINAL INTENT to KILL a particular person(s).

To which I said: No, it doesn't.

If you can't understand such a simple answer, you got no leg to stand on trying to act all condescending. You're just making a clown out of yourself.

Did you know that the victim's own brother testified that he did NOT believe that she was guilty & requested that she serve NO jail time at all??
Then he asked the judge to hug his brother's killer & with the judge's consent, HE DID.

yours, satx

I can read, and that was after the trial.

Anyway:

Sec. 19.02. MURDER. (a) In this section:

(b) A person commits an offense if he:

(1) intentionally or knowingly causes the death of an individual;

(2) intends to cause serious bodily injury and commits an act clearly dangerous to human life that causes the death of an individual; or

(3) commits or attempts to commit a felony, other than manslaughter, and in the course of and in furtherance of the commission or attempt, or in immediate flight from the commission or attempt, he commits or attempts to commit an act clearly dangerous to human life that causes the death of an individual.

So there you have it. Your "definition" of murder is nonsense. If you intentionally or knowingly cause the death of an individual, you've committed murder in Texas. She admitted she did intend to kill her victim, under oath, on the stand, and that was that.

 

[satx78247]

Bithabus; Kar98,

Like I said, HIDE & WATCH the TX Court of Criminal Appeals to throw the conviction out, with prejudice.
(The WOAI tv news here in SA said at 6PM that the case is already having an appeal filed.)
Back "when dinosaurs roamed the Earth" & I was a student at The North Central Texas Regional Police Academy, a retired TX Court of Criminal Appeals Judge told our class what I said was "settled law" & to my knowledge TX law hasn't changed as to what constitutes murder/manslaughter/negligent homicide.

yours, satx

yours, satx