Yeah, ok.You are incorrect in your assumption as to my tone. I was never a Boy Scout but always have believed in the practicality of their motto: "Be Prepared". You did not hear or see my words imply any such thing as you inferred from them. As for freedom being scary, when one of the cowboys in a circus like security team wounds or kills a church member accidentally I am sure that person or his heirs would be free to sue; yes freedom is indeed scary especially when people are irresponsible or careless in how they use it. You did not see me even hinting that any regulation be placed on them, I was wondering if they were doing it responsibly. Let's face it - there are wrong ways and right ways to do thing and when you are talking the protection of others and possibly the use of deadly force - you may as well at least try to do it with great care and reasonable preparedness. I don't give a shit how they do it, I was just wondering how they were doing it and if they were doing it responsibly. I did not for a moment question, hint at, think of whether or not they were (as you, not me, said) professional enough. Your preconceived notions about what I think have been amazingly prejudicial and totally without merit.