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  • oldag

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    It ain't over with yet. I suspect that lawsuits are being worked on as we speak to counter this fraud in the courts.

    Very seldom that lawsuits or recounts change anything more than a handful of votes.

    Might help GA, but I doubt enough votes would change in any other state to change the results.
     

    kbaxter60

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    I don't believe the Courts will reverse anything Biden gains from all this. I'm as dejected as any other Trump supporter is.
    I won't say that you are wrong, but I look at it this way: this is way more than whether Trump is still president. Based on the stories I have seen, there has been MASSIVE fraud and it spans multiple states (Democrat, by coincidence). If this is NOT addressed, our free elections are DEAD. Deceased. Kaput. We may never have another democratically elected president.

    The stakes are way higher than Trump remaining in office. I think the only way it gets fixed is if LE and the FEC go after those running these nefarious schemes and gets them big time prison. If we are no longer a nation of laws, maybe we don't deserve free elections, either?
     

    Dougw1515

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    I won't say that you are wrong, but I look at it this way: this is way more than whether Trump is still president. Based on the stories I have seen, there has been MASSIVE fraud and it spans multiple states (Democrat, by coincidence). If this is NOT addressed, our free elections are DEAD. Deceased. Kaput. We may never have another democratically elected president.

    The stakes are way higher than Trump remaining in office. I think the only way it gets fixed is if LE and the FEC go after those running these nefarious schemes and gets them big time prison. If we are no longer a nation of laws, maybe we don't deserve free elections, either?
    You are correct in your statement of massive fraud and the absolute detrimental effect it will have on "free" elections - If allowed to stand. This realization that free/fair elections are dead "may" encourage the courts to intervene in a way they never have before. Extraordinary problems call for extraordinary solutions.
     

    Axxe55

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    Those numbers are as bogus as the Covid-19 counts. There are several states that should be counted for Trump already and they just refuse to do it. When did we let the "news outlets" call this thing, anyway?

    They offer no evidence it's not all fraud.

    In full agreement with you on this.

    I suspect widespread fraud is going on right now.
     

    Axxe55

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    I won't say that you are wrong, but I look at it this way: this is way more than whether Trump is still president. Based on the stories I have seen, there has been MASSIVE fraud and it spans multiple states (Democrat, by coincidence). If this is NOT addressed, our free elections are DEAD. Deceased. Kaput. We may never have another democratically elected president.

    The stakes are way higher than Trump remaining in office. I think the only way it gets fixed is if LE and the FEC go after those running these nefarious schemes and gets them big time prison. If we are no longer a nation of laws, maybe we don't deserve free elections, either?
    You are correct in your statement of massive fraud and the absolute detrimental effect it will have on "free" elections - If allowed to stand. This realization that free/fair elections are dead "may" encourage the courts to intervene in a way they never have before. Extraordinary problems call for extraordinary solutions.

    The fate of free elections hangs in the balance, and I agree, if this isn't addressed and dealt with now, it will only get worse in the next elections.

    Safe, and free elections are one of the foundations of a free country, and they should be safeguarded from any influences of tampering and fraud. Without free elections, and when votes can be manipulated for a specific outcome, we are no longer citizens, but subjects.
     

    gambler

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    Those numbers are as bogus as the Covid-19 counts. There are several states that should be counted for Trump already and they just refuse to do it. When did we let the "news outlets" call this thing, anyway?

    They offer no evidence it's not all fraud.
    And which states would those be ?

    And the news outlets have "called these things" for as long as I can remember and I'm 72 years old.
     

    Brains

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    It's not like I believed any past election counts either, but this year it really doesn't pass the sniff test. States getting 90+% percent voter participation? In the words of the guy with the unfortunately increasing chances of being our future prez, "C'mon, man!"
     

    Axxe55

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    "Calling an election", doesn't make the results official. Until the official governing body makes a determination, the results are not official and mean exactly what they mean. nothing yet.

    I also suspect that lawsuits are being drafted, and I suspect that post-election investigations will be happening as well.

    What was that infamous saying, "Elections, have consequences."
     

    gambler

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    Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia, North Carolina to name a few.
    Well they have called Arizona long time ago. And Trump is trailing in the rest of them except North Carolina, so why would "they" (whoever that is) "call" (whatever that means) them for Trump ?
     

    Dougw1515

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    Very interesting.....


    The Electoral Commission was a temporary body created on January 29, 1877, by the United States Congress to resolve the disputed United States presidential election of 1876. Democrat Samuel J. Tilden and Republican Rutherford B. Hayes were the main contenders in the election. Tilden won 184 electoral votes, one vote shy of the 185 needed to win, to Hayes' 165, with 20 electoral votes from four states unresolved. Both Tilden and Hayes electors submitted votes from these states, and each claimed victory.

    Facing an unparalleled constitutional crisis and intense public pressure, the Democratic-controlled House of Representatives and the Republican-controlled Senate agreed to formation of the bipartisan Electoral Commission to settle the election. It consisted of fifteen members: five each from the House and the Senate, plus five Supreme Court justices. Eight members were Republicans; seven were Democrats. The Commission ultimately voted along party lines to award all twenty disputed votes to Hayes, thus assuring his electoral victory by a margin of 185–184. Congress, meeting in a joint session on March 2, 1877, affirmed that decision, officially declaring Hayes the winner by one vote.

     

    Axxe55

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    Very interesting.....


    The Electoral Commission was a temporary body created on January 29, 1877, by the United States Congress to resolve the disputed United States presidential election of 1876. Democrat Samuel J. Tilden and Republican Rutherford B. Hayes were the main contenders in the election. Tilden won 184 electoral votes, one vote shy of the 185 needed to win, to Hayes' 165, with 20 electoral votes from four states unresolved. Both Tilden and Hayes electors submitted votes from these states, and each claimed victory.

    Facing an unparalleled constitutional crisis and intense public pressure, the Democratic-controlled House of Representatives and the Republican-controlled Senate agreed to formation of the bipartisan Electoral Commission to settle the election. It consisted of fifteen members: five each from the House and the Senate, plus five Supreme Court justices. Eight members were Republicans; seven were Democrats. The Commission ultimately voted along party lines to award all twenty disputed votes to Hayes, thus assuring his electoral victory by a margin of 185–184. Congress, meeting in a joint session on March 2, 1877, affirmed that decision, officially declaring Hayes the winner by one vote.


    Most excellent Doug.
     

    phoenix

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    Put your predictions down.

    I will go with positive vibes:

    Trump wins with 288.

    Closest prediction wins a fully paid week's stay in the Michigan governor's mansion.

    I knew it was going to be close. Personally i wanted trump to win but with covid i did figure biden had a damn good shot. Thing is with allthe riots i cant believe it did not hurt biden. I am hoping PA, GA, and AZ award their votes to trump and we get 4 more years. I am 100% positive their was lots of fraud and there is a reason democrats hate voter id
     
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