Wait! Did you just wake from a coma AKM47?
Buying a AR
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Sorry, I just thought it was funny that now you felt it was a good time to buy an AR. When lockdowns were first starting is when many felt it was a good time to buy an AR.
That's when I started carrying my M10X in my car and started thinking of buying a ballistic vest.
I bet all the shotgun ammo was 7-1/2 shot and above- correct?This is the ENTIRE Ammo shelf (other than shotgun shells) at Cabelas in Ft Worth this week.
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Lonesome Dove
A man of vision but with no mission.
They are over rated but if you want one you better hurry.
Says you...
BuzzinSATX
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Curious what this means, AR’s are overrated as a whole? Certain kinds? Function? Ease of use? Performance?
Lonesome Dove
A man of vision but with no mission.
As a whole. They are the absolute last thing I grab out of my safe.
Depends on what you call performance. Guys in my squad used their AR's twice in two separate shootings in the summer of 2019 and the results were not what I was expecting. But we are required to use 55gr soft points and I think that was a significant factor. I still carry my AR but I prefer my 870 on calls now, just depends on the situation.
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BuzzinSATX
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Again, I have no idea what that means. Zero context.
What else is in your safe and why are you grabbing it...hypothetically speaking?
BuzzinSATX
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I’m interested to hear about the shooting results if you’d share them.
But no argument choosing a 12 gauge.
Yes, absolutely
I advise you to buy two of those sets; one for you and another for me.
First shooting was in a guys front yard, maybe 15 yards max distance. They fire 4 or 5 shots at a guy that just shot a relative in his front yard with a shotgun. He was still holding the shotgun when they arrive. He was hit twice in the face, once in the chest area, and once in the arm. This is all with 55gr soft point. I'm not sure of the brand because each officer buys their own ammo. Do to the close distance one of the officers said he put the dot right between the suspect's eyes for a CNS hit but didn't take into account the mechanical offset at that distance. So the round hit 1.5 inches low entering just below the nose, where the nose and upper lip meet. It blows out a lot of his teeth and there was quite a bit of blood loss. The second face shot must have been just above the first because his nose had a lot of damage. By the time I get their they have their med gear out and we are working on plugging him up best we can until EMS gets there.
I get a hy-fin seal on his chest wound and a tourniquet on his arm and they other guys are trying to find a bandage to put over this guys nose. EMS get there within 6 minutes and its a 10 minute ride to a level 1 trauma center. So, did the AR do it's job? Absolutely, it stopped the threat. I think more through physiological incapacitation in this situation and I think the guys teeth really impacted bullet performance. Eventually he would have bled out but I think a someone high on drugs or motivated could have stayed in the fight a bit longer. Bullet selection matters and as we all know, shot placement matters. I still carry my AR but I have my shotgun in the rack as well. Just something to think about
BuzzinSATX
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Thank you! Great recap! Glad your fellow officers were not hurt.
Definitely makes a guy ponder bullet selection.
Personally, all my HD ARs are loaded with mostly the same thing, Fiocci 55 grain softpoint or 5.56 FMJ.
Maybe it’s time for me to reload the mags to something heavier like 64 to 77 grain.
