Republicans begging

[IndyDave1776]

Not compromising is how we got here. It started many decades ago. That’s not how this works. Their has to be compromise at times. It has to be part of the recipe for democracy.

Erase the party lines and compromise would become a tool, leverage. In a 2 party system it becomes a stand-off and Americans lose.

Compromising on issues within the proper function of government is one thing. Things established in the Constitution are NOT subject to legislation and are NOT subject to compromise barring a constitutional amendment. Giving up anything from our enumerated rights is not only unacceptable but also illegal.

 

[oldag]

Probably true.
But, then again, what have the GOP been giving us lately?
Weak-assed RINOs. Not much better.

After the next few years of D's controlling both houses and the WH, we will see if people still think R's are about the same as D's.

Of course all the states with D's in control are in such great shape. Sure there is no difference.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Simply pit, compromise in present usage is not actual compromise but rather capitulation on the installment plan.

 

[oldag]

Who, or what party I vote for, is really none of your business. Last I checked, I don't need or require your approval of permission.

You vote your way, and I'll vote mine. Capisce?

A, you were the one who volunteered how you were going to vote. If you don't want people to comment, don't make those kind of statements.

 

[oldag]

What part of "NEVER" do you NOT understand?

Why the **** would I vote for a guy who wants more ATF, and more prosecutions of gun owners, with maximum charges and sentences?

Maybe because the other candidate is far worse.

 

[Maverick44]

Well, that will help put the liberals in office.

If they're going to cheat their way in anyways, what does it matter?

 

[Axxe55]

Soooo... Those among you claiming you'll "NEVER" vote republican ever again. Does this mean you are all in agreement that when Ted Cruze's election cycle comes again you'll just let Beto have that seat in the Senate? What simply brilliant idea! I'm amazed I didn't think of it first!

Sounds like a bunch of quitters to me! Yes, massive reform is needed. Perhaps a new party is formed. Perhaps Cruze moves to that party. But to suggest "NEVER" is pretty short sighted.

A, you were the one who volunteered how you were going to vote. If you don't want people to comment, don't make those kind of statements.

I dislike someone calling me a "quitter" simply because I want to change my voting affiliations, and how I want to vote. And as long as the present Republicans are in office, or until there is something drastically changed in the Republican Party, I'll never vote Republican again either.

Comments are one thing, discussions are one thing, but insults are another. So yes, my reply might have been a bit sarcastic, but I meant what I said.

 

[Moonpie]

Nope.

 

[Antares]

Well if they do away with the electoral college it will almost be a mute point that we will never again win an election. With dominion voting machines we may never win another presidential election. With how fast a lot of rino's threw our President under the bus I would never vote for one of them nor do they get my money again. A lot of them lie and say we want to support the President like the McConnell and Graham commercial's begging for money last year. We need a new party made up of people like Cruz, Hawley, Jordan and the rest of the Conservatives.. We also need to pass some legislation in Texas that says no matter what the demoncraps pass against the Second Amendment we will not abide by it. I think several states already passed this.

 

[stdreb27]

Well, that will help put the liberals in office.

I have argued that point till I’m blue in the face.

But Depending what they do these next few days. I’ll be out.

Wont matter anyway. They know how to cook the books now. Elections don’t matter.


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[Darkpriest667]

They can beg all they want. I'll probably never vote for another republican in my life.

 

[Axxe55]

True compromise is mutual give and take on both sides that ends up benefiting both sides.

No, law abiding gun owners have been giving and not getting anything in return. No mutual give and take has ever happened.

The word compromise has been used against gun owners to make them feel guilty and give up more, and then more, and then even more. At some point, there will be nothing left to take, because we will have given in to point of being defenseless.

Sadly, many of our so-called 2nd Amendment defenders, are either helping the other side in "compromising" our gun rights away, or woefully underfunded to fight the battles we need fought in defense of our gun rights.

For many years, the anti-gun liberals have used the terms, safety, crime, and other catch buzzwords to appeal to the masses of why we gun owners need to give up even more of our gun rights to help further their deceptive agenda. It was merely subterfuge for many years, but just recently, we have seen and heard for ourselves exactly why they want more gun control and what measures they are willing to use to gain what they want, which is gun owners being disarmed and defenseless.

 

[Hoji]

Does it really make a difference? We aren't going to see another fair election without a revolution/civil war first.

I disagree. If the states with supposedly conservative legislatures would pass iron clad voting laws( no mail in ballots other than absentee ballots) voter ID, no ballot harvesting, no voting machines, etc. then there is a chance.

 

[sidebite252]

Compromising on issues within the proper function of government is one thing. Things established in the Constitution are NOT subject to legislation and are NOT subject to compromise barring a constitutional amendment. Giving up anything from our enumerated rights is not only unacceptable but also illegal.

I didn’t say anything about compromising on the constitution at all. No specifics what so ever. I agree with your sentiments on the constitution.

 

[Texas45]

Don’t donate to ANY political candidates EVER.


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[Dougw1515]

I disagree. If the states with supposedly conservative legislatures would pass iron clad voting laws( no mail in ballots other than absentee ballots) voter ID, no ballot harvesting, no voting machines, etc. then there is a chance.

This right here. The solution lies with the individual States. Federal actors allowed the fraud to happen but they did not create it. That blame lies with the individual states. Especially and specifically States with Republican governance. A third party or the elimination of the Republican party and simultaneous creation of a new party or - whatever. It, if "it" is going to happen is going to be a long haul.

 

[Helo]

I disagree. If the states with supposedly conservative legislatures would pass iron clad voting laws( no mail in ballots other than absentee ballots) voter ID, no ballot harvesting, no voting machines, etc. then there is a chance.

Every time they pass a law, it goes to court and some judge rules it unconstitutional

 

[Hoji]

Every time they pass a law, it goes to court and some judge rules it unconstitutional

Not true. There is a reason Dominion machines are not allowed in Texas. ( not law, but ......) and there is ( for now) a Supreme Court majority that would tend to favor these types of laws.

 

[Dougw1515]

Not true. There is a reason Dominion machines are not allowed in Texas. ( not law, but ......) and there is ( for now) a Supreme Court majority that would tend to favor these types of laws.

I'm going to add a caveat to that statement and it is "maybe" The SCOTUS rulings thus far have have been anything but promising. We "think" it, SCOTUS, is majority Constitutionalist but the results thus far suggest maybe not.

 

[gambler]

Not true. There is a reason Dominion machines are not allowed in Texas. ( not law, but ......) and there is ( for now) a Supreme Court majority that would tend to favor these types of laws.

I'm not so sure about that. The SCOTUS refused to even hear about the unconstitutional voting changes in Pennsylvania. And they did not rule against Obamacare in a case with all 7 seated.

Dominion voting machines in Texas had nothing to do with any "law" that was passed and the SCOTUS didn't even get involved in that, so not sure what that has to do with it.

Roberts is a liberal and I don't think we know for sure about the others yet.