Vaccine Poll

[Haystack]

The personal choice would be telling them in the first place. It's none of their business.

"Terms of employment" makes it their business.

 

[dapakattack]

So, if I have it but don't know that I have it, would I need to be vaccinated against it?

I don't think I would get one. All those that do will probably develop horns or something a few months afterward and will want to get a new Microsoft product instead of a freedom loving gun

That's what I said back in July. Got the 1st Moderna shot last Wednesday (sore arm for a couple days). No horns and haven't bought any Microsoft gizmo....yet. Haven't bought a gun either, but I did buy some 30 round "F California and other gun grabber" magazines....so I'd say I am still of the freedom loving persuasion.

 

[HCS]

I have as much fear of not taking the vaccine as I do for getting it, but due to age, decided to go ahead

had my first shot of the moderna a week ago, no side effects, no soreness, life has been normal

with the exception that Saturday, I woke up a had the desire to go to the gun range and do a little target shooting

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

Many are jumping on the 'vaccine bandwagon' and I say: Fine by me, but it'll be a cold day in hell before I get one...or two.

 

[rotor]

Many are jumping on the 'vaccine bandwagon' and I say: Fine by me, but it'll be a cold day in hell before I get one...or two.

How cold? Kidding

 

[Texas45]

"Terms of employment" makes it their business.

NOPE.
What you do on your time (travel, yank your crank,drink til ya fall down) is NOT your employers business.

What you do on their time YES.

What you do on your own time
NOPE.

But we all make choices.


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[Texas45]

BTW will all of you who took this flu shot err I mean vaccine be lining up for the next one for the new deadlier strain of CV19.



Its not a vaccine folks


98% survival rate

75% effectivity rate.


Hmm not a mathematician but 98 is higher than 75.

Carry on sheeple.


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[vmax]

People who haven’t been sick all year are risking getting sick by getting a shot for something that hasn’t made them sick all year....

 

[rotor]

98% survival rate

75% effectivity rate.


Hmm not a mathematician but 98 is higher than 75.

Carry on sheeple.


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You admit that 2% die and you won't take a vaccine that has about a 94% effective rate (not 75%) and then you say 98 is higher than 75 and you think that is smart? I agree 98 is higher than 75. Dumbest comparison I have ever seen.

 

[gll]

Why you can't compare Covid-19 vaccines

 

[Haystack]

NOPE.
What you do on your time (travel, yank your crank,drink til ya fall down) is NOT your employers business.

What you do on their time YES.

What you do on your own time
NOPE.

But we all make choices.


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Bring your head out of the narrow slot you poked it in. Let me give you an example of "Terms of Employment" that absolutely governs things that you might do on your own time. I have a company owned vehicle that I drive as part of my terms of employment. If I get too many moving violations, or one DUI, my job is over. I am fired, no questions asked. Why? because to do the work I do for my company, I need to be able to drive one of their vehicles.

There are dozens of other examples of "Terms of Employment" that govern and dictate what is and isn't acceptable behavior during your own time off duty.

So yes, you can make a choice to work, or not work. Or to take a job (for probably lower pay) that doesn't really care what you do on your own time. But for many, many people some of what they do on their own time is still of concern to their employer. Office romance, criminal offence, alcohol abuse, etc., etc., etc.

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

...while some consider personal freedom 'just that' and no, sigh, not to get drunk and drive etc, but some folk just don't mind being told how to jump...or think 'dammit', if I have to comply with rules outside the scope of my job, say like your company mandating you must get a so-called vaccine shot to stay employed, so they insist you have give up too...reminds of a crawfish escaping the bucket and then being pulled back down into the bucket by the other captives...

Some of us value our freedom more than others.

 

[Ozzman]

Hmm not a mathematician but 98 is higher than 75.

Like many of you, I too didn't have respect for the virus. Also like many of you, until it affects our inner circles we blow it off as a minor inconvenience because that too was me.

Long story short, I had a close friend pass away from COVID-19 and he died way too young; and in the most isolated/dehumanizing way too.

The speed at which the virus attacks the lungs IMO is beyond amazing.
From minor symptoms of aches and chills on a Saturday (Halloween) afternoon, coughing by Tuesday, pneumonia-like symptoms on Wednesday, and dead by Friday morning at 5:10 a.m. He was 39 years old with 3 young kids. They put his body in a stack of other bodies to be buried before Christmas... no family, no friends, nobody could do anything about it. Call it bad luck, the 2%, or bad genes, or whatever; he died from COVID-19.

To make matters worse, they believe he passed the virus on to his 78-year-old dad who also died from the virus a few weeks later.

I wasn't going to take it either, but this experience pointed me to yes, I will take it.

 

[rotor]

...while some consider personal freedom 'just that' and no, sigh, not to get drunk and drive etc, but some folk just don't mind being told how to jump...or think 'dammit', if I have to comply with rules outside the scope of my job, say like your company mandating you must get a so-called vaccine shot to stay employed, so they insist you have give up too...reminds of a crawfish escaping the bucket and then being pulled back down into the bucket by the other captives...

Some of us value our freedom more than others.

Ever been in the military?

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Screenshots off my TV...

Vaccine only lasts 6 months.

Mix up ruins doses.

 

[mitchntx]

NOPE.
What you do on your time (travel, yank your crank,drink til ya fall down) is NOT your employers business.

What you do on their time YES.

What you do on your own time
NOPE.

But we all make choices.


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Three words ... random drug test

Now argue what folks do on their own time is none of an employer's business. And don't say "apples and oranges" because the issue being argued now is an employer generating policies surrounding continued employment.

If you go to work contagious with C19 and 1/2 the work forces gets sick and goes home, where does that leave the business? What if your kid was at the school where my daughter teaches and she came back and gave the virus to him/her and made him/her even moderately sick, you telling me you wouldn't care?

You'd be the first Karen jumping up and down screaming for prosecution for reckless endangerment.

A shot in the arm, regardless of it's effectiveness, is a very small price to pay to be able to visit your kid after 2 years.

Regardless ... I'm not going to argue any longer about this. It's sad to see someone so blinded by ideology that can't see common sense or at a minimum, respect someone else's POV.

 

[Texas45]

You admit that 2% die and you won't take a vaccine that has about a 94% effective rate (not 75%) and then you say 98 is higher than 75 and you think that is smart? I agree 98 is higher than 75. Dumbest comparison I have ever seen.

Nope wont take it regardless.
Not scared
Show me 98 effectivity also. Everything I seen (aint looked hard) is 75osh


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[Texas45]

Three words ... random drug test

Now argue what folks do on their own time is none of an employer's business. And don't say "apples and oranges" because the issue being argued now is an employer generating policies surrounding continued employment.

If you go to work contagious with C19 and 1/2 the work forces gets sick and goes home, where does that leave the business? What if your kid was at the school where my daughter teaches and she came back and gave the virus to him/her and made him/her even moderately sick, you telling me you wouldn't care?

You'd be the first Karen jumping up and down screaming for prosecution for reckless endangerment.

A shot in the arm, regardless of it's effectiveness, is a very small price to pay to be able to visit your kid after 2 years.

Regardless ... I'm not going to argue any longer about this. It's sad to see someone so blinded by ideology that can't see common sense or at a minimum, respect someone else's POV.

Three more words.
Dont do drugs.


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[rotor]

Nope wont take it regardless.
Not scared
Show me 98 effectivity also. Everything I seen (aint looked hard) is 75osh


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Look harder my friend. Pfizer and Moderna 94+.

 

[gll]

Look harder my friend. Pfizer and Moderna 94+.

From a clinical trial where the actual exposure rate to Covid post vaccination was extremely low... Show me the trial where everyone who received the vaccine was actually exposed to the virus under controlled conditions?