Oh wow, never thought of that. Glad I shoot my EDC rounds once or twice a year.Ammunition Failure Warning
Important new information about ammunition failure induced by a common practice. If you carry a gun, you need to read this. Police training article.www.bluesheepdog.com
Keep the primers in mind for multiple rechambering also.
Oh wow, never thought of that. Glad I shoot my EDC rounds once or twice a year.
Thank you.
why the ammo changeI too clean after every range trip (at least once a month).
And I too use up the defensive ammo after a year and load up with a fresh batch, which I test first, though.
why ammoevery six months I clean my carry guns and cycle out my ammo
well considering your average person goes to many places that might vary in humidity, temp, and other factors I just do it mostly as insurance for myselfwhy ammo
does it go bad sittin in a mag more than in a box
Possibly. Depends on how many times a round has been chambered. Also rounds in the magazine of a carry gun are exposed more to humidity, temperature changes, sweat, dust, dirt, and sharp impacts.why ammo
does it go bad sittin in a mag more than in a box
I’ve never had a commercial round not go boom. No matter age or even going through the wash ( admittedly, those became range rounds). I clean and rotate my EDC top round about every three months.Possibly. Depends on how many times a round has been chambered. Also rounds in the magazine of a carry gun are exposed more to humidity, temperature changes, sweat, dust, dirt, and sharp impacts.
I have never heard of this before nor witnessed this problem to my knowledge and find that to be amazing especially as the earliest articles/blog posts that I could find quoting the same source, the Gwinnett County Sheriff’s Department, were from as far back as February 2012. Of course, the blog post quoted something that apparently was first referenced in 2012 and I retired in 2011 but then I have recertified as a LE Instructor ever since then and never heard of it in my training either with the NRA. Also funny that no working links to the actual report seem to exist - at least not working links that I could find and I tried several. I have to wonder if that is for real. I would think that if it was for real, then Winchester would have put out a notice about it (and maybe they did but I missed it). I'd also think that Winchester would not be the only ammo affected by this issue as, I am guessing, primers are probably not all that different in how they are manufactured.Ammunition Failure Warning
Important new information about ammunition failure induced by a common practice. If you carry a gun, you need to read this. Police training article.www.bluesheepdog.com
Keep the primers in mind for multiple rechambering also.
Hey Glenn,I have never heard of this before nor witnessed this problem to my knowledge and find that to be amazing especially as the earliest articles/blog posts that I could find quoting the same source, the Gwinnett County Sheriff’s Department, were from as far back as February 2012. Of course, the blog post quoted something that apparently was first referenced in 2012 and I retired in 2011 but then I have recertified as a LE Instructor ever since then and never heard of it in my training either with the NRA. Also funny that no working links to the actual report seem to exist - at least not working links that I could find and I tried several. I have to wonder if that is for real. I would think that if it was for real, then Winchester would have put out a notice about it (and maybe they did but I missed it). I'd also think that Winchester would not be the only ammo affected by this issue as, I am guessing, primers are probably not all that different in how they are manufactured.
I am fully aware of a problem that was not mentioned, that continually loading and unloading the same couple of rounds from a firearm (as done when unloading at home by some folks) can cause the bullet to become uinseated in the proper position and thus be pushed too far into the shell case. This can and has caused feeding problems and as I understand pressure problems. Having had collateral duties for 16 years while on the job, I would think I would have heard about such a primer problem especially since some agents with whom I worked unloaded their pistols every night when they got home, then loaded them again the next day with the next round in the mag and took the one they had been in the chamber and placed it in the mag as the next round. So, the problem of the bullet being pushed too far into the casing was a fairly common one until we got them to alternate the rounds being loaded each day and to change all the ammo in their mags every so often. They had to be reminded every so often too because someone would invariably have that problem again because they seemingly had an inability to remember what we had told them in training..
When that problem was ongoing, of the bullets being pushed into the shell casing, you have to figure they were unloading then reloading those two rounds maybe 90 times per quarter if not more - yet not once did we have the failure that the GCPD noted with the primers. And some continued doing it for a few quarters because they used range mags when qualifying and range ammo instead of their carry ammo (for quals we always tried to get them to use up their carry ammo but some would just not listen).
Thus, as I said, I find it amazing I have never heard of this before nor witnessed the problem as far as I am aware. Of course, I am not saying it is not true, just wondering. Anyone else ever here of that and actually witness the problem before?
I've seen duds in carry ammo at the range but they were never investigated to this degree. Bullet set back and non drop safe firing pins repeatedly dinging the primer I've seen. I'm sure you know about the non drop safe shotgun issue in cruisers that coined the "cruiser ready" condition.I have never heard of this before nor witnessed this problem to my knowledge and find that to be amazing especially as the earliest articles/blog posts that I could find quoting the same source, the Gwinnett County Sheriff’s Department, were from as far back as February 2012. Of course, the blog post quoted something that apparently was first referenced in 2012 and I retired in 2011 but then I have recertified as a LE Instructor ever since then and never heard of it in my training either with the NRA. Also funny that no working links to the actual report seem to exist - at least not working links that I could find and I tried several. I have to wonder if that is for real. I would think that if it was for real, then Winchester would have put out a notice about it (and maybe they did but I missed it). I'd also think that Winchester would not be the only ammo affected by this issue as, I am guessing, primers are probably not all that different in how they are manufactured.
I am fully aware of a problem that was not mentioned, that continually loading and unloading the same couple of rounds from a firearm (as done when unloading at home by some folks) can cause the bullet to become uinseated in the proper position and thus be pushed too far into the shell case. This can and has caused feeding problems and as I understand pressure problems. Having had collateral duties for 16 years while on the job, I would think I would have heard about such a primer problem especially since some agents with whom I worked unloaded their pistols every night when they got home, then loaded them again the next day with the next round in the mag and took the one they had been in the chamber and placed it in the mag as the next round. So, the problem of the bullet being pushed too far into the casing was a fairly common one until we got them to alternate the rounds being loaded each day and to change all the ammo in their mags every so often. They had to be reminded every so often too because someone would invariably have that problem again because they seemingly had an inability to remember what we had told them in training..
When that problem was ongoing, of the bullets being pushed into the shell casing, you have to figure they were unloading then reloading those two rounds maybe 90 times per quarter if not more - yet not once did we have the failure that the GCPD noted with the primers. And some continued doing it for a few quarters because they used range mags when qualifying and range ammo instead of their carry ammo (for quals we always tried to get them to use up their carry ammo but some would just not listen).
Thus, as I said, I find it amazing I have never heard of this before nor witnessed the problem as far as I am aware. Of course, I am not saying it is not true, just wondering. Anyone else ever here of that and actually witness the problem before?
again i would love to now the science or data behind the reason for thatI’ve never had a commercial round not go boom. No matter age or even going through the wash ( admittedly, those became range rounds). I clean and rotate my EDC top round about every three months.
The problem pointed out was not about a round sitting in a chamber for 3 months but being cycled through the gun daily.again i would love to now the science or data behind the reason for that
what would you think could change in 3 months by sittin in the top round that the rest of the rounds have not changed
no not realyThe problem pointed out was not about a round sitting in a chamber for 3 months but being cycled through the gun daily.