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  • seeker_two

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    While being an idealist is noble and all...we must all live in the real world. Each year this state gets more purple. Don't be the fool that tips the scale to the other side just for the sake of idealism.
    If the ideals of Constitutional republic and inalienable rights aren't important, then what is?....

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    MTA

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    I can't imagine anyone (including myself) who has ever lived in a blue state before abstaining from a vote like this. Yall must be huffing paint fumes if you are going to sit this one out. A blue governor would have this state locked down tighter than a dolphins asshole.
     

    seeker_two

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    Yes I will vote for Abbott. You know what BETO would have "tried" to pull in Texas these past two years, like Cuomo, Whitmer and Newsom.
    Yeah....things like unconstitutional executive orders, destroying the economy, subverting rule of law and the legislative process, lying to citizens.....


    .....oh, wait.....

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    What about Huffines? I got invited to a fundraiser for him. Don't know much about him except he wants to end the property tax.
     

    toddnjoyce

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    What about Huffines? I got invited to a fundraiser for him. Don't know much about him except he wants to end the property tax.

    Is he the used car salesman? Heard his pitch which was to swap ISD property tax for tax on services and food products not currently taxed like bread and milk, etc. The rest of it was just bait & switch accounting.
     

    majormadmax

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    Yeah....things like unconstitutional executive orders, destroying the economy, subverting rule of law and the legislative process, lying to citizens.....


    .....oh, wait.....

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    Who are you talking about? Do you really think things are that bad in Texas?

    Hell, we got Constitutional Carry this year!

    And our economy is nowhere near as bad as it is in most states!
     

    candcallen

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    In the general yes. I think you're wasting your vote and phucking your side if you dont vote outta protest or some self described principles.

    The time to exercise that is the primary.

    Will I vote for him in the primary? We will see. I was gonna vote for Lt Col West till he got needlessly indignant over his wife's arrest. He could have handled it much better and more impactful if done differently. I havnt decided against him yet but am thinking a bit deeper.

    The primary is where you exercise your desire for new candidates. The general is where you dont waste your vote by not voting and giving a double to the enemy. If you cant vote for the candidate the party puts up in the general then you damn well better vote against the worst possible outcome and vote against the fake messican gun grabbing wannabe Kennedy whore bitch. That means voting for Abbott even if you dont like him.

    IMHO people who dont vote outta principles are throwing childish temper tantrums akin to taking the bat ball and glove and going home cause they didnt like the way the primary went. Screwing everyone else in the process. Not only are you taking a vote away from a Republican, you're not cancelling a vote fore beto.

    Abbott did some stupid things in the beginning of the scamdemic but has been pretty damn solid since. Decent on all the issues most of us agree on. If hes the candidate in the general election then yes I'll vote for him and against the disaster of beto.
     

    69ChevelleLSX

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    I’ll vote Republican no matter what. Voting Democrat or even thinking about it is out of the question.
    If there’s a “Republican” vs a incumbent Republican vs dem. Looks to me like a rino is trying to help the democrats.
    Plus for the most part we know what we get with Abbott. Hind sight is 20/20 anybody can say the would have done it this way after the fact. Nobody knew what this covid crap was. Abbott had us back open quickly compared to other Republican governors.
     
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    69ChevelleLSX

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    Texas Scorecard did some great interviews with the primary candidates. Abbott, of course, declined.


    At this point, even if Abbott won the primary, I would not vote for him. He betrayed his party platform and Texas citizens for his own ambitions. He's no better than any Democrat.

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    so you’re from California?
     

    Glenn B

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    And that's why I'll vote for west.
    So, are you implying that West is above doing things due to political motivations? He is the same as the rest of politicians to at least some degree. He is no white knight (no pun intended) in shining armor come to save the day based solely upon his idealism. He is a politician and thus has political motivations for what he does within the realm of politics. Of course, he likely also has political convictions that are based upon his ideals and upon practicality and for the good of the people but then again I would not hesitate to guess that Abbott is likewise in that regard. You essentially mentioned once or twice in the opening post that you are basing your vote upon your opinion of what you think or believe were the motivations of Abbott. Thinking/believing/having an opinion is very different than knowing because of having evidence that supports your beliefs, with at a minimum a preponderance of the evidence. As for myself, I will be doing some good deal of checking up on both candidates and giving a lot of thought as to for whom I will vote in the gubernatorial primary on March 1, 2022.

    After the primary, as I see things right now, I would not hesitate to vote for Abbott if he wins the primary vote nor would I hesitate to vote for West if he does likewise.

    Of course if it leaks out that West told his wife to go out and drive while acting as if she were drunk, so as to get herself arrested, so he could then make a politically motivated stink about it (as a dastardly attention getting ploy) - well, he'd probably still get my vote (if he wins the primary) because he'd be better still than any demoncrat or third party option:rolleyes:. All kidding aside, what that translates to, in a serious way, is I am a dyed in the wool cynic and I do not trust him any more or less than I trust any other politician to do something almost totally driven by the purely egotistical need to win an election for the sake winning that seems to drive many if not most politicians. The same goes for my potential vote for Abbott even though he shutdown some businesses and even though that, as you suspect, may have had purely political motivations to garner him votes.

    As for saying the police made a false arrest of West's wife; that it was a false arrest seems doubtful if this article is correct. That stands even if the police were mistaken by thinking she was inebriated. That West's reply to may well have been politically driven possibly can be surmised by his calling it "insidious". He did not call it mistaken, he did not call it a legal arrest based upon probable cause - heck, he did not even allow for any possibility of it having been a legal arrest but attacked the police by use of that word. Thus, in sum & substance, he attacked the integrity of the arresting officers and their department by way of his response. That was maybe either a ridiculous hot headed thing to say based upon his emotions of the moment or maybe was a calculated political statement made to draw more attention to him, even if after the fact, to get the situation more attention and thus get him more attention as the wronged downtrodden political candidate in the hope of garnering him more votes. The truth is that if the police had probable cause to make the arrest, and after reading the linked article I have to say they certainly had it if what was said in the article is true such as having observed Mrs. West driving in a dangerous or unsteady manner over the right shoulder, her stopping in the center lane, her not following police instructions at first by not immediately poulling onto a side street, her failure of some of the field sobriety tests and so on - then it was not a false arrest but merely a legal arrest that was based upon probable cause based upon evidence that was later proven wrong. To say it was insidious, such as something that amounted to treachery or that it was something that had was unnoticed but had a harmful effect over time was seemingly either a misuse of the word or possibly was motivated either by emotions or politics or both.
     
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    Grumps21

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    I find it hilarious that some of you think a different candidate will do any better! ;) ;) ;)

    Is Abbott perfect? Far from it. Could we have done much worse? Most certainly!

    I will go with the devil I know...
    I get what you are saying, and I do agree to some extent. However, I have to think that the country is in the position we are in because the current crop of politicians are doing “ok” in the eyes of their constituents . What is it that Reagan said? Diapers and politicians need to be changed often, and for the same reasons.
     
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