First Look: GForce Arms .410 Lever-Action Shotgun
GForce Arms has just announced a new shotgun import out of Turkey: the GFLVR410, a .410 lever-action shotgun available with two barrel lengths.
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Any of the recent turkish import guns should be avoided at all costs
Why?
I'm convinced that someone has figured out how to use those ai programs that made all those creepy bootleg children's youtube videos from a few years back to make and import shotgunsGForce especially. My fil worked on one and tried to order parts but they were not available and the importer orders extra guns just to use for parts. The smith with the importer even said they are pos’s.
Tisas can be ok. I had a PX9 that I traded to a member here that was an alright gun. But many others I avoid like my wife telling me: “I have an idea”.I'm convinced that someone has figured out how to use those ai programs that made all those creepy bootleg children's youtube videos from a few years back to make and import shotguns
Gforce, black aces, vzeir, citadel, Tr imports, Garaysar, tokarev, etc etc.
I bought a .410 bore Yildiz single shot shotgun, a Turkish import, from Academy last year (they are the sole importer or were when I bought it - Yildiz is an Academy brand name as I understand) or the year before when the .410 nostalgia bug bit me. The only thing I can think of maybe not to like about it was the thin foregrip. Otherwise, it was fine, nothing wrong with it at all as far as I could tell. Shot it a bunch and then wound up selling it when I realized I had zero practical need for a .410 and a 16 gauge better suited me for anything on which I might have used a .410.Because they are garbage. No name shotguns designed to be as cheap as possible, imported by a no name import company that will not be able to help you with any problems you will have, and probably won't exist in a few years. I have seen a lot of "them", and they are not nice. Poor machining, poor quality furniture, rough actions, bad headspacing, very poor durability.
If you absolutely just *have* to buy a turkish shotgun, buy a CZ or something, so at least they will make some effort to fix it.
Is the Tokarev name being used for Turkish import shotguns nowadays? Wow, what a downfall from Soviet (and other combloc) made pistols and rifles. If that is correct, Fedor must be writhing around in his grave.I'm convinced that someone has figured out how to use those ai programs that made all those creepy bootleg children's youtube videos from a few years back to make and import shotguns
Gforce, black aces, vzeir, citadel, Tr imports, Garaysar, tokarev, etc etc.
Yup. Kinda got my hopes up for a second, then crushed themIs the Tokarev name being used for Turkish import shotguns nowadays? Wow, what a downfall from Soviet (and other combloc) made pistols and rifles. If that is correct, Fedor must be writhing around in his grave.
Yes. Not worth it. Cheesy bullpup shotguns, or 'AR' shotguns that only vaguely look like an AR if you saw one out the corner of your eye 15 years agoanybody know anything about Panzer Arms shotguns?
I've seen a few of the Yildiz guns, one (a 12 gauge) iirc, had ejectors, and after half a game of skeet, locked the gun up tight as it was opened. The rest were fine from what i saw.I bought a .410 bore Yildiz single shot shotgun, a Turkish import, from Academy last year (they are the sole importer or were when I bought it - Yildiz is an Academy brand name as I understand) or the year before when the .410 nostalgia bug bit me. The only thing I can think of maybe not to like about it was the thin foregrip. Otherwise, it was fine, nothing wrong with it at all as far as I could tell. Shot it a bunch and then wound up selling it when I realized I had zero practical need for a .410 and a 16 gauge better suited me for anything on which I might have used a .410.
CZ shotguns are made in Czech RepublicBecause they are garbage. No name shotguns designed to be as cheap as possible, imported by a no name import company that will not be able to help you with any problems you will have, and probably won't exist in a few years. I have seen a lot of "them", and they are not nice. Poor machining, poor quality furniture, rough actions, bad headspacing, very poor durability.
If you absolutely just *have* to buy a turkish shotgun, buy a CZ or something, so at least they will make some effort to fix it.
My black aces semiautomatic shotgun has been flawless for me...Because they are garbage. No name shotguns designed to be as cheap as possible, imported by a no name import company that will not be able to help you with any problems you will have, and probably won't exist in a few years. I have seen a lot of "them", and they are not nice. Poor machining, poor quality furniture, rough actions, bad headspacing, very poor durability.
If you absolutely just *have* to buy a turkish shotgun, buy a CZ or something, so at least they will make some effort to fix it.