Interstate travel to/through communist states

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

If the trip is 'voluntary', I wouldn't go.

Both states are crawling with marxist, anti-gun idiots!

 

[Tnhawk]

If the trip is 'voluntary', I wouldn't go.

Both states are crawling with marxist, anti-gun idiots!

Much as I would like to visit my sisters, I have no plans to ever cross the CA line.

 

[OneGunTX]

One Idea have not seen expressed, is to find an LGS along the route and pay them to hold your gun when entering commie states. Granted it is not a preferred idea, but if you have strip, lock up and keep your firearm in the trunk, what's the difference? You are disarmed no matter what.

 

[Sam7sf]

One Idea have not seen expressed, is to find an LGS along the route and pay them to hold your gun when entering commie states. Granted it is not a preferred idea, but if you have strip, lock up and keep your firearm in the trunk, what's the difference? You are disarmed no matter what.

Most likely a no go on the FFL idea. Oregon gets strange when taking a gun on the books and releasing back with a 4473. They are a POC state and only share info with NICS. I have seen them make special cases for and against residents of other states doing transfers and It might depend on what side of the bed they woke up on. WA has all kinds of dumb transfer laws.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Last thing I’d do is transfer a firearm to an FFL for ‘storage’. Might as well just go to a pawn shop and take a loan on it

 

[PDiddy]

As for me, I simply do not go to those states.

 

[Tnhawk]

One Idea have not seen expressed, is to find an LGS along the route and pay them to hold your gun when entering commie states. Granted it is not a preferred idea, but if you have strip, lock up and keep your firearm in the trunk, what's the difference? You are disarmed no matter what.

I don't see any advantage in paying an LGS fees for storage and filing FFL paperwork so I can travel without a gun. This only adds additional time and expense to the trip

 

[TX oddball]

I have been driving the country for many years including CA, CO, and OR with Texas plates in a vehicle that will stand out from a crowd.

I carry everywhere but know the consequences and make my own decisions. That's for you to decide though.

Here's the thing. Don't do anything stupid to draw attention to yourself. That's the best way to avoid trouble. Follow the traffic laws and don't drive like an asshole.

You will not be singled out because you have TX plates. That's not a problem in my experience.

I own my small business and have occasionally driven to CA with a 1/2 ton of sensitive equipment for projects not easily transported by air. In the last five years, I have driven there over a dozen times and several things:

Texas plates might be a minor problem in the SF Bay Area and L.A.. Once, I walked out to my white van in my hotel parking lot and it was covered in Starbucks coffee, broken smashed cups as evidence. I grumbled to the front desk and one them said sadly, it was because of my Texas plates. Another time, a half-eaten lunch was shoved under my windshield wipers at another parking structure, no other cars touched. I have since paid extra and valet parked my vehicle on business trips to those areas. I've had a couple of people from the street yell at me to GTFO. But other parts of CA were just fine with TX plates, no problems. In fact, in places like Barstow, Bakersfield, Lake Tahoe, etc. people were very nice about my TX origins. Thank God I don't have to travel back to that retched state, specifically the Bay Area and L.A., the festering asshole of CA.

As far as guns, 100% pay attention to mags, 10 rds or less. No threaded barrels, even with a protector. But the old "separate the ammo from gun" is a myth; you legally can have loaded mags sitting next to your gun in a lockbox, no problem. CA law does not specify separating them. But your comfort level may determine this. Also a lockbox is not a glove box or console box, but a car trunk is.

Me, if CA is not an important stop, I'd skip it.

 

[SrsTwist]

Big mistake. Federal transport laws allow you to transport but you can't stop anywhere, just keep going and you must follow every rule. Not worth the risk and if they stop you and arrest you you lose your ability to own a firearm. Those Texas plates will get you. That's when you know LEO per se don't respect the constitution.

Not quite. If you're transiting a state and stop for the night at a motel, you're still protected. But he doesn't have to worry as he isn't transporting anything that's illegal in Cali or Oregon. His only concern is proper storage of his handgun and ammo. The federal 'innocent passage' law doesn't protect you on that score.

 

[rotor]

I remember driving to California once where they stopped every car looking for illegal plants (maybe they still do). I think taking a gun into one of those sh*t states just isn't worth it.
I remember the story of the two women from Texas with their LTC stopped and asked a cop something about where they should store their guns and were promptly arrested. The woman from PA that drove in NJ with her gun and was arrested. Governor eventually pardoned her.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Do cops even work in CA or OR?

 

[Grumps21]

If the trip is 'voluntary', I wouldn't go.

Both states are crawling with marxist, anti-gun idiots!

Yes, it’s voluntary. California part might could be avoided but Oregon will be our 49th state so I kinda have to. Shit

 

[toddnjoyce]

Yes, it’s voluntary. California part might could be avoided but Oregon will be our 49th state so I kinda have to. Shit

Seriously, you’re overthinking this. When was the last time you had an LEO interaction? That’s the likelihood side of the risk equation. The impact side is anywhere from to talking to thru state charges.

On the other side is likelihood needing to defend yourself and impact of not being able to.

 

[1911'S 4 Me]

I am specifically concerned about Oregon and California. Crater lake is one of the stops wife wants to make. That, and there’s the only vegan tiddy bar in the US located in Portland. Wife is onboard, so I say why not?

**edit, I’m not vegan. I just think it would be a cool accomplishment, especially since accompanied By wife. Perhaps I’ll get her a lap dance,

Does vegan mean they would service your meat in a back room?

 

[Grumps21]

Does vegan mean they would service your meat in a back room?

Yuk. I’d never let it get that far. Heck in these times, and in that part of the country, it could very well be a dude

 

[Grumps21]

Seriously, you’re overthinking this. When was the last time you had an LEO interaction? That’s the likelihood side of the risk equation. The impact side is anywhere from to talking to thru state charges.

On the other side is likelihood needing to defend yourself and impact of not being able to.

Speeding ticket 16 years ago

 

[1911'S 4 Me]

Transporting Firearms in California​

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HANDGUNS​

Pursuant to California Penal Code section 25610, a United States citizen over 18 years of age who is not prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, may transport by motor vehicle any handgun provided it is unloaded and locked in the vehicle’s trunk or in a locked container. Furthermore, the handgun must be carried directly to or from any motor vehicle for any lawful purpose and, while being carried must be contained within a locked container.
Pursuant to California Penal Code section 16850, the term "locked container" means a secure container that is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment.

 

[oldag]

Check the state websites for their laws, as one person suggested above.

Check for how it has to be carried/contained in the car. Check for mag capacity restrictions regardless of how carried. Do your homework.

I will no longer travel to/through states with restrictive gun control laws.

 

[Aus_Schwaben]

A few years ago a Texas family was driving through Baltimore. They were stopped, ended up with four cops searching their vehicle, bags, and anything else they had, because "they were from Texas and had to have guns". When they finally gave up, the family was left on the side of the road with their possessions scattered as a result.

My concern is, with the lowered standards for recruitment and training of LEOs - not to mention the Leftists indoctrination in Blue states, there are too many LEOS with the wrong attitude on the road today. And with them it will not take much to go from a routine traffic stop to a beating, arrest, or a fatality.

 

[Grumps21]

Check the state websites for their laws, as one person suggested above.

Check for how it has to be carried/contained in the car. Check for mag capacity restrictions regardless of how carried. Do your homework.

I will no longer travel to/through states with restrictive gun control laws.

Yes, I did that. I have deduced that I can legally do so. If traveling through. I don’t know what the attitude is over there. All it takes is one technicality and I’m in legal trouble. What if we make a side trip and they don’t consider that passing through. If it somehow results in a felony, then there goes my hobby.