Calling it now. Trump will pick Haley for VP

[glenbo]

Hey ya'll.. what type of job do you think Kamala will have this time next year? Perhaps she and AOC can open a dive bar together.

Or a 2-dollar whorehouse.

 

[Sasquatch]

I find it telling that Austin would go into a hospital for several days and not tell the potato (or his own DOD people) and that the cabinet has met fewer times than any other in history. Since potato has gone off on vacation more than any other POTUS in history, who the heck is steering the ship? Barry?

Maybe worse - what if its really Big Mike that has been the string puller all along? What if he/she/they/them/ze/zem is the one who has been calling the shots across both presidencies? Look at them fingers, and the bulge that swings when they wear a sun dress. Barry probably ain't packin like that. Barry probably does what he's told by his key holding dom of a husbandwife.

 

[oldag]

He has been a good governor, but he is beholding to the Globalists. He is not what you think he is. He will dance to the music of those willing to pay him.

And I could say he is not who you think he is.

 

[oldag]

Trump is the only candidate who can beat the ComDems. They are scared to death of him. And he owes nobody. The VP won't be DeSantis.

Any Republican but Trump would easily beat Biden.

Hopefully, Trump will also win.

 

[WT_Foxtrot]

Any Republican but Trump would easily beat Biden.

Hopefully, Trump will also win.

Conjecture, but completely false, IMO.

 

[oldag]

Conjecture, but completely false, IMO.

You are welcome to your opinion, obviously.

When was the last time there was a weaker incumbent than Biden?

Any other Republican running would not lose the vote of those who are so opposed to Trump they will sit out the election. And would win over some Dems who don't like Biden, but like Trump even less.

Even the big Trump fans I know admit this.

 

[majormadmax]

Conjecture, but completely false, IMO.

Like he did four years ago?!?

 

[Havok1]

Like I always say, either the elections are rigged and it doesn’t matter who runs, or they are not, and people decided in 2020 that they prefer a vegetable to Trump. Either way, I’m not getting my hopes up for November. There are still plenty of people out there who, even though they may not like Biden, are perfectly happy with the current status of the country.

 

[oldag]

Like I always say, either the elections are rigged and it doesn’t matter who runs, or they are not, and people decided in 2020 that they prefer a vegetable to Trump. Either way, I’m not getting my hopes up for November. There are still plenty of people out there who, even though they may not like Biden, are perfectly happy with the current status of the country.

Out of curiousity, do you think all elections are rigged? Just certain levels?

 

[Havok1]

Out of curiousity, do you think all elections are rigged? Just certain levels?

I think in some states they are.

I’m not really sure what is worse between the two, the possibility of elections being rigged, or 82 million or however many people actually voting for Biden.

 

[WT_Foxtrot]

You are welcome to your opinion, obviously.

When was the last time there was a weaker incumbent than Biden?

Any other Republican running would not lose the vote of those who are so opposed to Trump they will sit out the election. And would win over some Dems who don't like Biden, but like Trump even less.

Even the big Trump fans I know admit this.

Weaker than Biden? I'd say Obama in '12 was close. Romney had it in the bag, too, but gave up the last few weeks before the election, not raising Benghazi, which was fresh and raging at that time and he all but disappeared from the campaign trail. I'm of the thought that he didn't want to win. And of course Romney had little or no connection or attraction for the common middle class. Can't think of any other explanation other than taking a dive.

But going back to Trump, you always talk about who won't vote for him. But what about all those that will, i.e., blue collar middle class primarily midwestern voters that hadn't voted GOP for 40 years in 2016? And also there's no way some establishment globalist GOP candidate gets near as many of those voters. Not only that, but loses a good chunk of Trump voters. It's a trade-off for sure. But I'll take the trade of the Bush/Cheney wing for what we get in return every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Who else besides Trump could have beaten Hillary in 2016 and won the entire "blue wall" that hadn't been carried since Reagan? I say no one. I remember having that same discussion with my dad and brother leading up to '16. They thought I was crazy, but came to realize I was exactly right since with his America-first agenda, Trump taps into a huge part of the electorate on both sides that's been forgotten and discarded until he came on the scene.

 

[Big Green]

I used to really respect DeSantis, until he turned on Trump.

Back in 2018, DeSantis, a U.S. Rep in the Freedom Caucus (all, except for Chip Roy, endorsed Trump for 2024), ran for governor, and was way behind Adam Putnam, a popular veteran Republican , in polling support, and money. He begged Trump for the coveted MAGA endorsement and finally got it. Overnight, DeSantis ran over Putnam in money and support, finally defeating him in the primary. In the general election, Democrat Andrew Gillum was leading DeSantis by a hair, and Trump came to his aid, holding a couple of large rallies to bring the vote out and support Ronny, who eventually beat Gillum by less than 1%. And Trump helped and supported DeSantis after his win. DeSantis owes his career to Trump.

In 2021, DeSantis pledged to Trump that he would not run in 2024 if Trump decides to run himself. Kristi Noem made the same pledge. During his 2022 win for reelection, he puts together a Super Pac through the Bushes and other Republicans with an intent to enter the 2024 race. Of course Trump's people gets wind of this, thus the early attacks on DeSantis at the beginning of 2023. Trump was DeSantis mentor, was responsible for his current career. Instead of waiting until 2028 for an easy run while supporting his mentor for 2024, he throws Trump under the bus, gathering endorsements from the Never Trumpers like Paul Ryan, The Bushes, Mitt Romney, etc., all seducing him to think he could beat Trump.

DeSantis continued to make blunder after blunder, trying to straddle the fine line of competing against Trump, and yet getting his voters. This stupid wasn't going to work. He had his "basket of deplorables" moment when he called Trump supporters "listless vessels". He threw the Jan 6th protesters under the bus (along with Haley), as well as Trump, calling them "unpatriotic", saying Trump instigated the whole thing. He threw doubt into the 2020 election fraud. He opposed Trump's China policy, getting together with donors and Super Pacs at Harris Ranch in California to assure them that he will have a more measured relationship with China than Trump.

DeSantis is a conservative, no doubt, he ain't a leftist. But he has shown in the last year that he is pure, 100% politician, and I don't mean it in a flattering manner.

I’ll vote for Trump but he’s an idiot and won’t win. Number 1 way to secure a D victory this year is for Trump to run.

DeSantis was a better candidate.

I’m so ready for Trump to go away, he and his cult.

 

[Big Green]

Weaker than Biden? I'd say Obama in '12 was close. Romney had it in the bag, too, but gave up the last few weeks before the election, not raising Benghazi, which was fresh and raging at that time and he all but disappeared from the campaign trail. I'm of the thought that he didn't want to win. And of course Romney had little or no connection or attraction for the common middle class. Can't think of any other explanation other than taking a dive.

But going back to Trump, you always talk about who won't vote for him. But what about all those that will, i.e., blue collar middle class primarily midwestern voters that hadn't voted GOP for 40 years in 2016? And also there's no way some establishment globalist GOP candidate gets near as many of those voters. Not only that, but loses a good chunk of Trump voters. It's a trade-off for sure. But I'll take the trade of the Bush/Cheney wing for what we get in return every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Who else besides Trump could have beaten Hillary in 2016 and won the entire "blue wall" that hadn't been carried since Reagan? I say no one. I remember having that same discussion with my dad and brother leading up to '16. They thought I was crazy, but came to realize I was exactly right since with his America-first agenda, Trump taps into a huge part of the electorate on both sides that's been forgotten and discarded until he came on the scene.

You think Obama was a weak candidate in ‘12? No way in hell. One, so many folks were infatuated with him, regardless of politics, similar to some of the MAGA crowd he could do no evil and it would be called racist to say otherwise. Two, Romney was a horrible candidate, worse even than Trump has ever been. I wrote in Ron Paul instead.

 

[oldag]

Weaker than Biden? I'd say Obama in '12 was close. Romney had it in the bag, too, but gave up the last few weeks before the election, not raising Benghazi, which was fresh and raging at that time and he all but disappeared from the campaign trail. I'm of the thought that he didn't want to win. And of course Romney had little or no connection or attraction for the common middle class. Can't think of any other explanation other than taking a dive.

But going back to Trump, you always talk about who won't vote for him. But what about all those that will, i.e., blue collar middle class primarily midwestern voters that hadn't voted GOP for 40 years in 2016? And also there's no way some establishment globalist GOP candidate gets near as many of those voters. Not only that, but loses a good chunk of Trump voters. It's a trade-off for sure. But I'll take the trade of the Bush/Cheney wing for what we get in return every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Who else besides Trump could have beaten Hillary in 2016 and won the entire "blue wall" that hadn't been carried since Reagan? I say no one. I remember having that same discussion with my dad and brother leading up to '16. They thought I was crazy, but came to realize I was exactly right since with his America-first agenda, Trump taps into a huge part of the electorate on both sides that's been forgotten and discarded until he came on the scene.

No way Obama was in a weaker position in '12 than Biden today. Not even close.

Romney was not an incumbent, by the way.

Does anyone think that blue collar middle class primarily midwestern voters are going to vote for Biden?

Pretty much anyone could have beaten Hillary. She is one of the most disliked women in the world.

Sorry, I know you are dyed in the wool Trump. That is fine. But you failed to make your case.

 

[WT_Foxtrot]

No way Obama was in a weaker position in '12 than Biden today. Not even close.

Romney was not an incumbent, by the way.

Does anyone think that blue collar middle class primarily midwestern voters are going to vote for Biden?

Pretty much anyone could have beaten Hillary. She is one of the most disliked women in the world.

Sorry, I know you are dyed in the wool Trump. That is fine. But you failed to make your case.

Wrong....not dyed in the wool Trump and understand he has shortcomings, but I do support him and think his policies are the best we've seen in decades and far better than the globalist stooges we've seen cycle after cycle. You just fail to recognize reality when it clashes with your worldview. No chance any other GOP candidate carries PA, WI and MI in '16 than Trump, period.

And I never said Romney was an incumbent. What kind of comment is that and where in the **** did you get that I thought he was? Obama was the incumbent, obviously.

 

[Havok1]

Obama in 12 was no where close to Biden today. Romney was just a terrible candidate, and so was his running mate.

 

[WT_Foxtrot]

You think Obama was a weak candidate in ‘12? No way in hell. One, so many folks were infatuated with him, regardless of politics, similar to some of the MAGA crowd he could do no evil and it would be called racist to say otherwise. Two, Romney was a horrible candidate, worse even than Trump has ever been. I wrote in Ron Paul instead.

Yep, he was weak. Approval ratings in the low 40s at the time of the election, not to mention the Benghazi fiasco that doormat Romney left on the table. Just because the media slobbers all over him doesn't make him popular with the people.

 

[Havok1]

Yep, he was weak. Approval ratings in the low 40s at the time of the election, not to mention the Benghazi fiasco that doormat Romney left on the table. Just because the media slobbers all over him doesn't make him popular with the people.

according to gallop, Trumps approval rating was 43% in november 2020. Obama may have been terrible for our country, but the dems did, and still do love him.

 

[glenbo]

Marjorie Taylor Greene.

 

[Paul Saver]