Self-defense, do you stop at the gun? What else is in you tool kit?

[Younggun]

I don't doubt that one bit...

Its good to see that you have other ways of over compensating than just attitude.

Well, that was unnecessary.


We all argue, but lets be adults and not try to pick fights for the sake of argument.

We have done pretty good at not carrying disagreements from one thread to another. If you don't like him, put him on your ignore list(your probably already on his). If you want to argue, wait till he says something that you actually disagree with on a moral or substantive basis. Popping up in a thread to call him a poopy face stink butt shows you lack the maturity to deal with differences like an adult.


It gets old.

 

[Younggun]

Serious question that was touched on earlier in the thread.

How many have done any knife training classes.

I don't ask this to knock anyone for being unprepared. An untrained person can do a lot of damage with even a small blade. I'm just curious.

 

[M. Sage]

I don't doubt that one bit...

Its good to see that you have other ways of over compensating than just attitude.

... Really?

 

[scap99]

Serious question that was touched on earlier in the thread.

How many have done any knife training classes.

I don't ask this to knock anyone for being unprepared. An untrained person can do a lot of damage with even a small blade. I'm just curious.

Sharp pointy things are caveman simple.

I don't need training to shank a fool, but it'd be nice to know how to deal with an attacker a bit better than I do now.

I'm going to swing by a local dojo that teaches Kali, and see how serious they are about it. If its a glorified daycare, I'll just find a way to take an Amok! class.

 

[scap99]

I wont need a sheath and a folder is easier to conceal

My AIWB carried fixed blade is less conspicuous than a folder clipped to your pocket.

 

[Charlie]

If I don't have a gun on me (which isn't very often), I just rely on my brain (that I have with me most of the time).

 

[Vaquero]

If I don't have a gun on me (which isn't very often), I just rely on my brain (that I have with me most of the time).

Charlie nailed it. A little grey matter between your ears makes all the difference.

 

[Pinlifter]

Well, that was unnecessary.


We all argue, but lets be adults and not try to pick fights for the sake of argument.

We have done pretty good at not carrying disagreements from one thread to another. If you don't like him, put him on your ignore list(your probably already on his). If you want to argue, wait till he says something that you actually disagree with on a moral or substantive basis. Popping up in a thread to call him a poopy face stink butt shows you lack the maturity to deal with differences like an adult.


It gets old.

... Really?

Aaaaand the TXI fan club comes in, right on cue.

 

[gcmj45acp]

Actually, fan club or not. Take your personal crap to another thread.

 

[Southpaw]

Heh, pretty much.

One thing everybody should learn is that somewhere out there is someone else who can take you, no matter how hard you train, no matter how mean your mindset. There's always someone meaner, stronger, faster, better. If the day comes that you meet that guy, there's not much you might be able to do... but that doesn't mean you give up!

You say Pyrrhic victory... I just see "victory".

Well said ....



Also, being equipped to defend is great, but more importantly, you should be aware of your surroundings and everyone in it all the time. If you seriously pay attention to your environment on a daily basis, it will become second nature and you won't even realize you are doing it. If something should begin to go down, you'll most likely be a step or two ahead of the situation and sometimes maybe even completely cleared of it.

 

[Vaquero]

Well said ....



Also, being equipped to defend is great, but more importantly, you should be aware of your surroundings and everyone in it all the time. If you seriously pay attention to your environment on a daily basis, it will become second nature and you won't even realize you are doing it. If something should begin to go down, you'll most likely be a step or two ahead of the situation and sometimes maybe even completely cleared of it.

True. I look for suspicious or threatening behavior. If it is there or not, I scan for exits and cover.

Gotta admit, sitting in church brings dozens of scenarios to my head.
The sermon is lost on me most of the time.

 

[poolingmyignorance]

Heh, pretty much.

One thing everybody should learn is that somewhere out there is someone else who can take you, no matter how hard you train, no matter how mean your mindset. There's always someone meaner, stronger, faster, better. If the day comes that you meet that guy, there's not much you might be able to do... but that doesn't mean you give up!

You say Pyrrhic victory... I just see "victory".

This is one of those things you tell a kid with a pride issue. As grown men I don't believe this adage really offers much benefit in mindset. I believe that one should always assume whoever they might encounter is going to be very capable and dangerous, and should be handled with such respect. I prefer to think that at some point, somewhere somebody is going to be the baddest dude, but since he ain't here right now, I'll have to suffice. Just a little different philosophy. I think your intentions are quiet the same.

 

[Charlie]

Charlie nailed it. A little grey matter between your ears makes all the difference.

Hey! Watch it! (sarcasm)

 

[Designated]

Serious question that was touched on earlier in the thread.

How many have done any knife training classes.

I don't ask this to knock anyone for being unprepared. An untrained person can do a lot of damage with even a small blade. I'm just curious.

I have and do. The knife is interesting. Easy to use and hard to defend against. If the other person is trained in its use and you are not.... well you are in deep deep trouble then. Against a trained knifer going to guns at close range is not even a option unless you really know what you are doing.

Not trying to rain on any parades, but I feel it is a overlooked aspect of personal defense. I mean most do not have a plan or skill set for a close range knife attack. But a knife can be carried almost anywhere, almost anytime.

I don't expect to change any minds, knife work is a "If I don't think about it I don't have to worry" type of thing.

 

[SIG_Fiend]

A gun, a reload, and a blade. That's what I normally try to carry.

If I can't carry the gun, I have a large folder, and a fairly large fixed blade that I alternatively carry.

Knife training? Not nearly enough. It has to be one of the most difficult subjects to become proficient in. Unfortunately, there is also a huge number of snake oil salesmen in that industry as well. In this day and age, there are very few people that can legitimately teach the application of using a blade on another human being. Fewer yet have actually been in a knife fight, because in reality, two or three dudes don't just throw down in the middle of main street, at high noon, with some blades. It's up close, at hyper speed, and ultra violent, and you didn't even realize you were just stabbed a dozen or so times. Some people I would look to for this type of training would be James Williams (System of Strategy), Sayoc Tactical Group, etc. Personally, I REALLY want to take a class with James Williams. If you can focus on and comprehend the subtleties with what he teaches, it's pretty powerful and deceptive stuff.

Paul Gomez got me thinking about actually carrying some form of medical gear on my person. Never thought about it before that, but it just makes sense. I'm still not there yet, unfortunately. Pare it down to size though, and having a compression bandage, a packet of Quick clot, and a tourniquet on you could easily fit in a cargo pocket, and Paul had a way (he has a vid on YouTube somewhere) of shrinking it all down enough to fit in a back pocket I believe. Worth considering. What if you're in a bad car wreck, get thrown into a serious natural disaster, happen to be present during a terrorist attack like the Boston Marathon bombing, etc?

That being said, I think people tend to go a bit overboard sometimes, personally. You can't plan and be prepared for everything. Think about what makes sense and what is realistic for your own personal restrictions.

 

[Pinlifter]

A gun, a reload, and a blade. That's what I normally try to carry.

If I can't carry the gun, I have a large folder, and a fairly large fixed blade that I alternatively carry.

Knife training? Not nearly enough. It has to be one of the most difficult subjects to become proficient in. Unfortunately, there is also a huge number of snake oil salesmen in that industry as well. In this day and age, there are very few people that can legitimately teach the application of using a blade on another human being. Fewer yet have actually been in a knife fight, because in reality, two or three dudes don't just throw down in the middle of main street, at high noon, with some blades. It's up close, at hyper speed, and ultra violent, and you didn't even realize you were just stabbed a dozen or so times. Some people I would look to for this type of training would be James Williams (System of Strategy), Sayoc Tactical Group, etc. Personally, I REALLY want to take a class with James Williams. If you can focus on and comprehend the subtleties with what he teaches, it's pretty powerful and deceptive stuff.

Paul Gomez got me thinking about actually carrying some form of medical gear on my person. Never thought about it before that, but it just makes sense. I'm still not there yet, unfortunately. Pare it down to size though, and having a compression bandage, a packet of Quick clot, and a tourniquet on you could easily fit in a cargo pocket, and Paul had a way (he has a vid on YouTube somewhere) of shrinking it all down enough to fit in a back pocket I believe. Worth considering. What if you're in a bad car wreck, get thrown into a serious natural disaster, happen to be present during a terrorist attack like the Boston Marathon bombing, etc?

That being said, I think people tend to go a bit overboard sometimes, personally. You can't plan and be prepared for everything. Think about what makes sense and what is realistic for your own personal restrictions.

I carry a decent little first aid kit in my truck, right next to my "truck gun".

I can't carry at work (theoretically), but I do have a decent little folding knife (4") in my grip, and I usually carry a 3' aluminum pipe with a cast iron end on it while at work.

 

[Hoji]

I don't doubt that one bit...

Its good to see that you have other ways of over compensating than just attitude.

Hmmm. Sounds like someone has spanked by TXI on a point of law.

 

[Pinlifter]

Hmmm. Sounds like someone has spanked by TXI on a point of law.

LOL

No, my txi tolerance is very short.

 

[seeker_two]

In addition to various knives and blunt objects, I primarily carry anattitude mentioned by Col. Jeff Cooper in PRINCIPALS OF PERSONAL DEFENSE.....alertness, decisiveness, aggressiveness, speed, coolness, ruthlessness, and surprise.....

....and the attitude that, if I don't have a gun, anyone around me that does (including cops, armed security, and criminals) have just volunteered to be my personal "gun caddy"......

 

[TimberWolf7.62]

Regardless of whether I don't have a .45 on me, then I always have a razor-sharp knife. That goes on with the phone and watch. Car trips include folding stock rifles with large capacity magazines. Just regular day-to-day stuff still means machetes and axes in the trunk, plus a long Mag-Lite as a billy clu----errr, flashlight.

If I think I might get into trouble then I'll go heavily armed. And I'll bring heavily armed friends.

Once I used a gas pump. Guy came at me while I was pumping gas. Squirted gas in his face. Kicked him a couple times in the stomach while he was thrashing around on the ground 'cause I was pissed about wasting the gas. Cops arrested him, dragged him off.

Be aware. Use whatcha got.