Dsa fal

[Stukaman]

Ok being in nightshift has given be a ton of time to think. I've been wanting a .308 battler rifle for no other reason than I want one. So is narrowed it between to models of the same rifle. The SA58 Tactical or the SA58 Congo rifle. Anybody have and experience with the FAL?


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[Jeffrey]

FAL is completely AWESOME. My favorite battle rifle by a longshot. Make sure you get the STG-58 bipod that folds right into the front hand guard.

 

[Stukaman]

I'd really like the Congo Rifle with the tactical rail on it so I could mount an Eotech or Acog.


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[Stukaman]

I'm willing to look at the PTR-91 as well but the FAL just looks right to me so it will be purchased before a PTR-91


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[Jeffrey]

You'll never feel better and more natural ergonomics than on an FAL.

 

[Kyle]

Fal all the way. You can't go wrong with it. I wish I still had mine :/

 

[Andy]

Built a number of FALs, used them a few times in the South African Defence Force - my favorite rifle. Make sure you get the metric version - parts and magazines are so much easier to find than for the inch (Commonwealth) variants.

One thing you might want to change out is the pistol-grip; the standard, as-issued grip is at a pretty steep angle. Looks sexy and is nice for shooting from the hip in the bush, but not ideal for shooting from the shoulder. DSA makes good gear - I used one of their receivers (Type 2) when building my first FAL.

Here are your receiver types:

Type 1 is the original design. The type 2 came about because a few type 1s cracked at the very rear of the receiver under extensive full-auto fire - notice the extra metal at the rear, like a small inverted V-shape, compared to the type 1? Type 2 is generally-considered to be the sexiest

Type 3 is the strongest (but plainest) - notice how it doesn't have the lightening-cuts that the other two have? This makes it slightly heavier, but is cheaper and faster to produce due to less machining.

 

[V-Tach]

I have an inch pattern L1A1 with a 16in. barrel. One of my top favorites to shoot. In retrospect, the metric is the way to go, parts availability and options are much greater. If I ever buy another, metric it will be.

 

[matefrio]

Get one, you'll fal in love with it. They are expensive to feed.

 

[Ready.Fire.Aim]

I have four FALs, as said before they are very soft shooters. Of the four, the para folding stock is the worst to shoot.

I have a HK91, it will beat you up and isn't fun to shoot. I am building ny first AR10 to compare them to.

 

[Stukaman]

What makes such a difference in how hard they shoot?


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[TheDan]

What makes such a difference in how hard they shoot?

As compared to the HK91? The HK uses a blowback action and the FAL is a short stroke gas system. The difference isn't that big of a deal...

 

[Stukaman]

I like the FAL I'm gonna go for it here in a few months hopefully by Christmas.


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[SIG_Fiend]

What makes such a difference in how hard they shoot?


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FALs also have an adjustable gas system, which can allow you to adjust the amount of gas flow to be just what is necessary to cycle the gun. The HK 91's roller locking design works great with pistol calibers, and maybe alright in .223, but with .308 they just plain have a fairly stout amount of recoil. .308 and it's level of recoil well is just a bit too much for the roller locking blowback design IMO. I love H&K's, but the FAL is a "better" platform IMO.

 

[Stukaman]

I was aware of the adjustable gas system of the FAL I wasn't aware that it wild make that kind of difference though.


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[Andy]

One other thing that the H&K G3/PTR91 rifle family does is mangle the brass a bit - the chamber is fluted so that gas can get under the case-neck and ease its extraction from the chamber, so you'll usually see soot stripes running down the neck and sometimes even feel a corrugated surface. That makes handloading a pain for those rifles.

 

[macshooter]

You'll never feel better and more natural ergonomics than on an FAL.

I have to agree. Very comfortable. Gotta learn to adjust the gas regulator right or it'll put gas in your face though.

 

[IXLR8]

FAL's rock.

HK91/PTR91 haters, buy this:
PWS FSC91 Compensator - HKPARTS.NET
It will make the HK91 the softest shooting .308 you own. It is what makes the SCAR 17 so controllable.

 

[smee78]

Fal

I have had experience with both styles of guns and I perfer the Fal, I sold my Cetme (HK clone) and this is the gun I just had built. It was done by Mark at Arizona Response. I just recieved it and have not had it to the range yet but it is built on a DSA receiver with the barrel cut to 18" with a saw grip and buttstock. I cant wait to get it to the range.

 

[Andy]

Mark Graham is pretty anal about how he builds FALs, so it should run like a raped ape