30.06 Sign at Grapevine Mills Mall

[Acera]

Hope you hollered "STOP - CHL holder!!!" first.....

It works better if you also flash a fancy CHL badge................

 

[Socaltonorthtx]

The last time I was there, the wording was wrong...

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That is the correct wording... As it is written, the sign is non compliant, and I disregard it as such.

Agreed. The code that is cited in the posted sign is incorrect and that makes it invalid.

Of course, if mall management or their designate, provides verbal notice, then that is effective notice.

 

[Driller]

Was just there. Wording incorrect. I think it was posted back in 1997. Correct wording should read.... Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by holder of license to carry a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (concealed handgun law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun.

Driller

 

[Driller]

What is article 4413?

Driller

 

[Renegade]

What is article 4413?

Driller

The old numbering system.

The statutes were revised with new numbers and sections over a decade ago.

 

[jordanmills]

Hope you hollered "STOP - CHL holder!!!" first.....

Yes, but he ran. That means it's completely legal to shoot him.

 

[TX69]

Far too many retail shops to spend money that do not post. Find a different mall to go to.

 

[sonuvaTXgun]

Yes, but he ran. That means it's completely legal to shoot him.

If y'all keep talking like that, the lurkers and newbies are going to take this advice and use it on some poor soul wandering down the street.

 

[xd.40]

If y'all keep talking like that, the lurkers and newbies are going to take this advice and use it on some poor soul wandering down the street.

so u cant shoot a bad guy who just planted a bomb that looks like a brief case and runs away?

 

[sonuvaTXgun]

so u cant shoot a bad guy who just planted a bomb that looks like a brief case and runs away?

No. It's just like if you witness a rape and the rapist runs away, you can't shoot him in the back. You can only shoot him in the act. The areas of CHL laws are so grey it's like a ninety year old man outside during an overcast day.

 

[jordanmills]

If y'all keep talking like that, the lurkers and newbies are going to take this advice and use it on some poor soul wandering down the street.

There can't be anyone that stupid...

Wait, I guess we see the left side of the aisle in the federal congress. I guess they can be that stupid.

 

[Driller]

Yes, but he ran. That means it's completely legal to shoot him.

Oh Crap?????

 

[bowserb]

A couple of points. For 3006 info, including lots of listings and comments about sign propriety, look at
Texas3006.com - Your 30.06 Information Resource - Home

Leaving a gun in a car without some kind of security--vault, Doberman, or something more than a glove box and trunk--is, in my opinion, a very wrong thing to do. I don't know how, but thieves seem to find cars with guns inside way out of proportion to their existence. I know only a few people who own guns, but of those few, I know three who have left a gun in a car/truck and returned to find their vehicle broken into and the gun gone.

West of Houston is the Katy Mills mall (Katy "Mills" = same company as Grapevine Mills?). It has signs at the mall entrances just like the OP described. One of its anchor stores is Bass Pro Shops, which sells guns and even hosts CHL classes. There is no 30.06 sign on the Bass Pro Shops entrance. That's the only store I will go to there.

From time to time, if I encounter a business with a valid 30.06 sign, I make it a point to call and let the manager know, in soft clear tones, that I believe he is making a mistake, and that CHL holders are, according to statistics less than 1/1,000th as likely to commit a crime as the general population. I also point out that mass shootings always happen in gun free places. Finally (usually after some lame reply like "corporate policy" or "our customers feel safer this way"), I explain that I consider his store to be too dangerous and that I will shop/eat/etc. elsewhere. I should note that I am not aware that any of the couple dozen businesses I've called like this, have removed their 30.06 signs. Oh well.

From now on, I'll be on the lookout for shoppers with suitcases. If I see one, I'll get out of there fast!

 

[Sapper740]

My wife and I no longer shop at Grapevine Mills. Last trip there a wanna-be rapper and his crew took turns stealing T-shirts from a kiosk while the sales clerk attention was diverted. I approached them and told them to put the shirts back to which I received the expected torrent of profanity. The Grapevine police have an office there in the mall close by so I went and reported the incident. The police officer's response? "Meh". He told me that he would only respond if the kiosk owner complained. I told him that my wife and I will spend our hard-earned money elsewhere in a city that cares about stopping such activity. Never been back, never will.

 

[jordanmills]

My wife and I no longer shop at Grapevine Mills. Last trip there a wanna-be rapper and his crew took turns stealing T-shirts from a kiosk while the sales clerk attention was diverted. I approached them and told them to put the shirts back to which I received the expected torrent of profanity. The Grapevine police have an office there in the mall close by so I went and reported the incident. The police officer's response? "Meh". He told me that he would only respond if the kiosk owner complained. I told him that my wife and I will spend our hard-earned money elsewhere in a city that cares about stopping such activity. Never been back, never will.

Lots of companies factor in and/or expect shoplifting. Hollister, at least from what a friend told me, has strict rules that employees are not to do anything to stop a shoplifter, no matter how obvious or easily preventable it is. Apparently they expect rich kids to pay top dollar for their worn out clothes that are made popular by the bad kids that steal them and wear them.

 

[TheDan]

Leaving a gun in a car without some kind of security--vault, Doberman, or something more than a glove box and trunk--is, in my opinion, a very wrong thing to do.

Not wise? sure...
"Wrong"? no

 

[gundude]

really !!

 

[sonuvaTXgun]

really !!

What possessed you to comment on this particular day? Lol

 

[jordanmills]

What possessed you to comment on this particular day? Lol

He must have felt "really !!" enthusiastic.

 

[txinvestigator]

Building up his post count.