Lonestar now "owns" all brass that hits the ground

[TSU45]

Pretty disappointed in this. They say you can either shoot with a brass catcher or lay a blanket out to catch your brass. How wants to shoot a 1911 w/ a brass catcher? Not me. Laying a blanket out is not really feasible either, especially on the weekends.

I have an idea if they are worried about shooters picking up brass that isn't theirs. How about picking up the brass on a more regular basis so that I don't have to walk around on two inches of brass at the shooting line? Guess they are just scrapping cause I would think a lot of it is trashed from being walked on for weeks.

 

[baboon]

If my gun club was to pull something like this I would stop paying dues & find another place to shoot.

 

[Texas1911]

Mark your brass, just take a marker and draw an X on the back of it. That way you can show you are just picking up your own. Matt seems like a reasonable guy, he's probably just trying to stop people from going out there and scalping the place for brass.

Technically we do the same at Red's, only we will let people pick up their own brass, just not go rifling through the brass bucket. I even go out there and pick up some of the oddities like .50 Beowulf, 6.5 Grendel, etc. for our regulars. It's nothing on Red's bottom line, and it makes the regulars happy.

 

[djspump2003]

I thought those guys were better than that, guess I won't join up there after all.

 

[SIG_Fiend]

I'm sure it was something spawned as a result of some a-hole being caught with a bucket and a shovel trying to take all the shells in sight or something like that. From now on, I'm going to make sure to use a marker on every piece of brass so I grab only my own.

 

[Ranger60]

I was out there a while ago and Matt did mention it was a possibility that he would do this because of folks just picking up everything they could find.

 

[robocop10mm]

If he is that hard up for cash that he must take the brass to All American Metals for $1.13/lb, I guess I don't need to go there.

 

[MadMo44Mag]

OK, I'm a brass whore but I ask those shooting around me if they save their brass. If so I only take whats mine otherwise I sweep it all up.
I don't take anything out of the bucket and I don't go 4 or 5 lanes down and sweep, just around my area.
If someone wants to sweep everything in a pile and split it, I'm good with that.
IMO any range that claims all brass that hits the ground is theirs, has either money issues are want it for there own re-loading needs. Sorry that's BS!!!
I am the customer and that's my brass.
Now all the ranges I go to don't care as long as you don't take whats in the bucket, anything on the ground is fair game.
I've even been asked to sweep the firing line a few times and take all I wanted for the effort.
To me its just poor customer relations!

 

[navyguy]

. Sorry that's BS!!!
I am the customer and that's my brass.
Now all the ranges I go to don't care as long as you don't take whats in the bucket, anything on the ground is fair game.
I've even been asked to sweep the firing line a few times and take all I wanted for the effort.
To me its just poor customer relations!

I agree with that Mo. As long as you're getting your brass, or that of other shooting near you that say you can have it, it should not be a problem. Although I've seen a few knuckle heads try to go a bit down range when it's live, to grab a few .

Elm Fork seems to be pretty good about that. Army got him self a pretty good load the other day.

 

[Hoji]

This rule is because of the asshats who come out to "shoot" and have their entire banjo pickin albino family scouring all 3 ranges while "Pa" shoots 40 or 50 rounds from a wheel gun. Matt actually caught this happening. Guy's family had a couple of 5 gallon buckets started with everything but what he was shooting.

The range is regularly raked and the brass is sorted and resold.{ or if it is not resold due to other factors, berdan primed,damage, etc it is sold as scrap. even as low as 1.13 per pound if you have 500 + pounds per week, it adds up and allows Matt to keep the costs to the shooters down} If you do not like the idea of putting an old sheet down to catch your brass, you are free to go somewhere else that lets you shoot for $65 per year , lets you draw from the holster, move and shoot, shoot multiple targets, and shoot fast, and allows FMJ.


Some of you ladies really need to take a midol. You can still pick up your own brass, you now just have to take reasonable steps to let the staff know you are picking up your own.

 

[Hoji]

Mark your brass, just take a marker and draw an X on the back of it. That way you can show you are just picking up your own. Matt seems like a reasonable guy, he's probably just trying to stop people from going out there and scalping the place for brass.

Technically we do the same at Red's, only we will let people pick up their own brass, just not go rifling through the brass bucket. I even go out there and pick up some of the oddities like .50 Beowulf, 6.5 Grendel, etc. for our regulars. It's nothing on Red's bottom line, and it makes the regulars happy.

LOL I actually got kicked out of Red's once for picking up my own brass.

 

[kingofwylietx]

that lets you shoot for $65 per year , lets you draw from the holster, move and shoot, shoot multiple targets, and shoot fast, and allows FMJ.

Dang, $65 a year?! I wish it was close to my house.......or within an hour of driving. I'd jump on that.

I don't reload, and frankly, I don't care what happens to my brass as long as it is ejected from my gun and I don't have to pick it up & take it home with me.

 

[navyguy]

This rule is because of the asshats who come out to "shoot" and have their entire banjo pickin albino family scouring all 3 ranges while "Pa" shoots 40 or 50 rounds from a wheel gun. Matt actually caught this happening. Guy's family had a couple of 5 gallon buckets started with everything but what he was shooting.

The range is regularly raked and the brass is sorted and resold.{ or if it is not resold due to other factors, berdan primed,damage, etc it is sold as scrap. even as low as 1.13 per pound if you have 500 + pounds per week, it adds up and allows Matt to keep the costs to the shooters down} If you do not like the idea of putting an old sheet down to catch your brass, you are free to go somewhere else that lets you shoot for $65 per year , lets you draw from the holster, move and shoot, shoot multiple targets, and shoot fast, and allows FMJ.

Some of you ladies really need to take a midol. You can still pick up your own brass, you now just have to take reasonable steps to let the staff know you are picking up your own.

I do appreciate the fact that idoits as you have discribed cause problems, but how many of those types are there? IME, most folks at the range are good citizens. and will abide by resonable rules, such as picking up only your own brass. But, any business has the right to dictate their own rules (race etc not withstanding) and if that's your rule, I would abide by it if I shot there. I don't reload, but I do usually make a feable effort to pick up once fired brass that lands close to me (maybe half of what I shoot) just to keep in case one day I might reload, or perhaps give to a friend that reloads.

Thankfully, the ranges I go to in DFW area are a bit more forgiving on this, and none seem to depend on spent brass as a cash stream.

 

[SIG_Fiend]

All it takes is one idiot to screw things up for the rest.

Wow, that's pretty messed up Hoji! Can't believe someone is an a-hole enough to have his family do that for him.

 

[accumack]

It seems reasonable you can put a sheet down to catch your own brass. I'll bet the ones that complain the most are the ones trying to grab all the brass. I know I'll probably get flamed saying that. I want the range to succeed and grow. we're lucky to have a place to shoot for $65 a year.

 

[TSU45]

This rule is because of the asshats who come out to "shoot" and have their entire banjo pickin albino family scouring all 3 ranges while "Pa" shoots 40 or 50 rounds from a wheel gun. Matt actually caught this happening. Guy's family had a couple of 5 gallon buckets started with everything but what he was shooting.

The range is regularly raked and the brass is sorted and resold.{ or if it is not resold due to other factors, berdan primed,damage, etc it is sold as scrap. even as low as 1.13 per pound if you have 500 + pounds per week, it adds up and allows Matt to keep the costs to the shooters down} If you do not like the idea of putting an old sheet down to catch your brass, you are free to go somewhere else that lets you shoot for $65 per year , lets you draw from the holster, move and shoot, shoot multiple targets, and shoot fast, and allows FMJ.


Some of you ladies really need to take a midol. You can still pick up your own brass, you now just have to take reasonable steps to let the staff know you are picking up your own.

So because of a few abusers they choose to punish the collective? I would think a superiorly private school educated person as yourself would disagree with this approach. Kinda sounds like a tactic they use in them gubment edumaction stations. Collective punishment solutions to individual problems.

The idea of setting out a sheet on the weekend to catch my brass is laughable. Most of the time all the member shooters are confined to one pistol range because of all the classes, making the line full. What am I gonna do? Kick everyone off the line w/in 10ft of me so I can lay a fuckin sheet on the ground? Yeah that's an awesome idea. What if someone else's brass lands on my sheet? Do I now own their brass? Cause you know it's my damn sheet.

I wonder how often it is "regularly" raked. Once a week, month, quarter? Brass is "regularly" piled up layers thick on the shooting lines. If they are so worried about someone cleaning them out then they should rake it up a little more "regularly."

Taking my $65 somewhere else sounds like a better and better idea as my membership gets closer to expiring. Listening to an instructor shouting on a loudspeaker for 3hrs explaining how to work a glock to a security guard who is now legally allowed to carry a firearm on the job is getting old. It's like the special olympics police academy is out there handling live weapons every weekend.

 

[DCortez]

Hmm

 

[TxEMTP69]

Hmm

I actually scrolled back up to reread that

 

[Hoji]

So because of a few abusers they choose to punish the collective? 1]I would think a superiorly private school educated person as yourself would disagree with this approach. Kinda sounds like a tactic they use in them gubment edumaction stations. Collective punishment solutions to individual problems.

2]The idea of setting out a sheet on the weekend to catch my brass is laughable. Most of the time all the member shooters are confined to one pistol range because of all the classes, making the line full. What am I gonna do? Kick everyone off the line w/in 10ft of me so I can lay a fuckin sheet on the ground? Yeah that's an awesome idea. What if someone else's brass lands on my sheet? Do I now own their brass? Cause you know it's my damn sheet.

3]I wonder how often it is "regularly" raked. Once a week, month, quarter? Brass is "regularly" piled up layers thick on the shooting lines. If they are so worried about someone cleaning them out then they should rake it up a little more "regularly."

4]Taking my $65 somewhere else sounds like a better and better idea as my membership gets closer to expiring. Listening to an instructor shouting on a loudspeaker for 3hrs explaining how to work a glock to a security guard who is now legally allowed to carry a firearm on the job is getting old. It's like the special olympics police academy is out there handling live weapons every weekend.

1] Anytime you want to discuss my education, you know where to find me. .
2]Plenty of other people manage it. Maybe if your parents cared enough about to send you to somewhere other than a government school, you would have the ability to think outside the box and figure it out.
3] about once to twice a week. A lot of people shoot there
4] that is your choice.

 

[Hoji]

All it takes is one idiot to screw things up for the rest.

Wow, that's pretty messed up Hoji! Can't believe someone is an a-hole enough to have his family do that for him.

There are actually a couple of them. As well as the multitudes of scroungers who will pick up every spend casing they can find. Matt has tried for months to talk to people about it but it has become more and more of a problem so hence the rule. You can still { as it has always been} pick up your own brass.