Thank you for the support...Thank you for your service and for keeping us free.
There is no way I could make that hike even when I was in top shape at the age of 20. Then add the 120lb gear load ...... I'd fall down in a few yards lol.
nd pressure is beginning to grow on the Marines to lower their standards.
Remember the EIB is a station based test. We did them in our Bn containment area. You do have to study for it, but we did not have a lot of folks that failed except some duds.These idiots do not seem to understand what the mission of our military is.
BTW, I'll eat a little crow about the Army lowering their standards after reading about the Korean women earning their EIB without having the bar lowered. Good for them.
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Man, what a-holes...political tools I guess. I mean it's just common sense - people want to be a part of a well trained, tight-knit group (and that goes for anything not just military). But of course retention will be better when you have that. No one wants to die because their buddy couldn't hack it..dumb generals. Thanks for fighting the good fight Ole CowboyBasic training: Back in the mid 80's the Army wanted someone to do a study and compare Marine Basic vs Army Basic and women training of both. It was a 6 week study. I was chosen. They gave me the current POI for USMC Basic and sent me to some post were they had men and women training in basic. They would NOT send me to the Marine location where they had basic going on, said I had the POI and that was enough.
I briefed at the GO level. Briefing was halted about half way thru as worthless, poor job, one GO wrote a comment to be added to my OER about my poor performance on this assignment. I still had the rest of the week to finish and turn in the written report, I was told to leave by the next day as the assignment was over, no written report needed.
I interviewed men/women in basic at 2 weeks, 4 weeks, and 6 weeks of training. I compared the POI's of both and in an in-depth analysis ( I have a consulting and analytical background from my college days).
Can ANYONE guess what my final recommendations were?
Recommend US Army adopt USMC training in these following areas: x, x, x, (been too long to remember them, but most of the USMC POI) for BOTH MEN and WOMEN. They are far superior to our standards and would result in better performing soldier in and out of Basic and higher retention of FEMALE soldiers!
YEP the Army Top brass did NOT want to hear that!!!
...... (Roughly a quarter of male lieutenants also do not graduate.)
If only that were true. IIRC there were 207 in my Basic Infantry Officers course and less than 10 made to retirement. Enlisted serve by contract so making 20 and beyond is easy, but not officers, they can pull the plug on you any time.Yes, but we all know the officers get off easy. When I went to enlisted boot camp, my platoon started out with 113 individuals (all male). Thirteen weeks later we graduated 62. Can't say why those numbers have stuck with me for all these decades, but that's what they were.
And that was just basic training. We hadn't even gotten to Idiot Training School yet. (They called it Infantry Training School but where's the fun in that?)
If only that were true. IIRC there were 207 in my Basic Infantry Officers course and less than 10 made to retirement.
If only that were true. IIRC there were 207 in my Basic Infantry Officers course and less than 10 made to retirement. Enlisted serve by contract so making 20 and beyond is easy, but not officers, they can pull the plug on you any time.
They say no officer has ever received walking papers that had a silver star. NOT TRUE. I personally know an officer who got the boot with 17 years 9 mo of service, 2 SS, more Purple Hearts that he could count, submitted for the CMoH for pulling his Co out of a bad spot, he took 7 rounds taking him out, his Co live was saved and he went on to make 3 Stars. He was a true hero, I knew him very well and spoke with him just a few months back right before he died. I was also in the office when he called the GO on the fone and begged him to help him out for saving his life in Vietnam. He only needed less than 30 days more on Active Duty to be able to get 18 year lock in and retire at 20...The guy turned him down. He told him, "I've got a chance at 4 stars and if I do that for you, I will might not get my 4th star: It was on speaker fone, I heard every word...
It has happened: The CiC has said we will improve our diversity and minority representation in the combat ranks. The Army then release a statement saying they will work much harder to meet diversity goals and minorities in the combat ranks.watch them lower the requirements....I have full faith this will happen.