30.06 a personal thought

[Younggun]

Not gonna touch that one, lol.

 

[satx78247]

To ALL,

WHEN I see a "no guns allowed" sign of any sort in SA (which is NOT often), I turn around & go elsewhere. THEN, I send a postcard to the business telling the owner/manager what I had planned to buy on their premises.
(That simple act, combined with the postcards of other gun-owners, resulted in the "anti-gun signs" coming DOWN.)

Also, the CEO of the company that I worked for (before returning to TX & that had well over 300 employees) was also PRO-2nd & "Leo" sent letters to restaurants that explained that NONE of our company events would be at their premises & would NOT until they changed their anti-gun policy.

yours, satx

 

[seeker_two]

Why should they be responsible for your security simply because they allow you on their property?

You aren't being forced to go there.

True....so why should they be responsible for your safety, either? No use cleaning up the water on the floor, the ungrounded electrical wiring, or even checking the temperature on the refrigerators.....people aren't being forced to go there, after all.

 

[Renegade]

IWould you be judged by 12 than carried by 6 ?

Neither.

The only winning move is not to play.

Do not go there, do not give them your money.

 

[Renegade]

II also have been known to find a door that is not marked and use that one if I really need to get something from there.

Legally meaningless and does not get you out of 30.06 violation.

 

[Younggun]

True....so why should they be responsible for your safety, either? No use cleaning up the water on the floor, the ungrounded electrical wiring, or even checking the temperature on the refrigerators.....people aren't being forced to go there, after all.

I agree.

Let free market handle the shit holes.

 

[txinvestigator]

True....so why should they be responsible for your safety, either? No use cleaning up the water on the floor, the ungrounded electrical wiring, or even checking the temperature on the refrigerators.....people aren't being forced to go there, after all.

It is grounded in law: a little term called foreseeable. There is precident for, to use one of your examples, wet floors to be a known hazard a a duty on public places to clean them up.

No such precident exists for you carrying a gun.

 

[V-Tach]

In high crime areas, car burglaries, robberies and purse snatching......are not foreseeable....lol......

We really are on our own when it comes to personal safety.....

 

[txbirddog]

Many people make the assumption that they have Constitutional rights on private property. Little do they know!

and little to property owners have the rights they think they have,,,,,,,ergo the bakers who wouldn't bake a cake for a homosexual couple,,,,,,,,or those in the Metroplex that want to allow customers to smoke,,,,,,,,I am lucky that only 2 places I go on a regular basis are posted legally........

 

[Younggun]

They do have those rights, the gov has infringed upon them because short sighted people couldn't see the danger.

 

[satx78247]

Younggun,

EXACTLY SO.

yours, satx

 

[Younggun]

Younggun,

EXACTLY SO.

yours, satx

I think we have been agreeing on too much lately, it's making me nervous.

 

[motorcarman]

Has anyone seen a 30.06 in Wise County. I know we are rural for the most part (and I rarely leave the County) but I have not seen one. I have seen pictures in my CHL class.

 

[winchster]

Has anyone seen a 30.06 in Wise County. I know we are rural for the most part (and I rarely leave the County) but I have not seen one. I have seen pictures in my CHL class.

Wise regional is posted.

 

[fishingsetx]

Legally meaningless and does not get you out of 30.06 violation.

Please explain if you don't mind.

So say I go to my local mall, enter through sears that isn't posted. I'm walking through the mall and someone somehow figures out I'm armed and calls the police. I get stopped, checked, and informed the front entrance to the mall is posted and I'm in violation. So I could be charged with trespassing while armed even though I was never notified pursuant to 30.06?

 

[Younggun]

You can be charged with anything. Luckily, with enough money or social stature you can prove your innocence.

 

[fishingsetx]

Yep but my 2yo could argue well enough to get that one thrown out. No money or social stature needed!

 

[txinvestigator]

Please explain if you don't mind.

So say I go to my local mall, enter through sears that isn't posted. I'm walking through the mall and someone somehow figures out I'm armed and calls the police. I get stopped, checked, and informed the front entrance to the mall is posted and I'm in violation. So I could be charged with trespassing while armed even though I was never notified pursuant to 30.06?

It all depends. If you first walked up to the main entrance to the mall and saw the sign, then went "shopping" for an unmarked entrance you can be charged and I think the state would prevail in court. Remember, malls now have surveillance cameras everywhere.

If they can establish that you entered the mall previously through a posted entrance....

 

[fishingsetx]

They would have a tough time with that one. I hate that place and only go a couple times a year and always use outlying store entrances (mainly sears) which aren't posted due to the much better parking.

As for them sifting through months of footage from multiple cameras, that I highly doubt. Not enough time or man power.

So in the real world not the what ifs,

1). You would have to get seen with a weapon.

2). You'd have to end up with a majorly bad responding cop willing to arrest on a bogus charge to please mall management.

3.). You would have to find a DA to prosecute a bogus case with little chance of winning

4). You would have to get a judge who was either influenced by mall management or anti CHL to allow the case.

5). You would have to have a jury of anti's.

The list could go on! I'll take my chances!

My chances of being mugged or worse I. The parking lot trump those by 1000%!

 

[winchster]

They would have a tough time with that one. I hate that place and only go a couple times a year and always use outlying store entrances (mainly sears) which aren't posted due to the much better parking.

As for them sifting through months of footage from multiple cameras, that I highly doubt. Not enough time or man power.

So in the real world not the what ifs,

1). You would have to get seen with a weapon.

2). You'd have to end up with a majorly bad responding cop willing to arrest on a bogus charge to please mall management.

3.). You would have to find a DA to prosecute a bogus case with little chance of winning

4). You would have to get a judge who was either influenced by mall management or anti CHL to allow the case.

5). You would have to have a jury of anti's.

The list could go on! I'll take my chances!

My chances of being mugged or worse I. The parking lot trump those by 1000%!

No need for any of that as you've publicly admitted knowledge of the posting.